Great interview! This summarizes the book well:

> The microbiome is not a panacea for our health problems. It doesn't explain them all in their entirety. I think it just shows how important microbes are in our lives and what a strong influence they have.

I'm optimistic. With the current AI wave and being able to process datasets once impossible to do, we can at least come up with findings (that we may not understand) but may help us to understand these diseases and life conditions through the lens of trillions of microbes.