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Counterpoint: SAG-AFTRA. Represents all the actors on set, ranging from the A-list celebrities getting paid millions down the unknown actors credited with "Gas Station Clerk #2" and getting some money to show up.

Your view of unions is the result of relentless propaganda in the US for the last hundred years, and at best is only somewhat indicative of unions representing extremely homogeneous, low-qualification workforces.

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Speaking of "relentless propaganda" (quoting the parent post), ever notice that every time the example used by pro-union folks is the Screen Actors' Guild or sports teams union? It's almost as if its a canned talking point.

You might also notice how none of these posters can point to any engineering unions (there's barely any in the US and it takes much more smarts to get an engineering degree than become a coder) or have the guts to use technical workers' unions like the Communications Workers of America as their example? Think very hard about why that is.

Here is something I just found: https://www.gameworkersunite.org/

Please do let me know if those six unions would not be considered technical. And I'll try to keep looking. Perhaps we can find a good example of failing and a winning union (according to your definition) or get as close as possible, take the best of each, and build something better.

Oh, I agree with you; there are more examples if you look at the CWA and OPEIU. Look hard at those contracts and see what kind of deal you'd actually be getting. Doesn't seem much like what the SAG or sports unions offers, does it?

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