Only the IDF has said this, its like "we investigated ourselves and found nothing bad"
And if hamas had such capabilities, why didn't they use them yet, huh?
And we don't know what capabilities yet, we still don't know what happened.
the end> Since when can civilians on the ground know where the rocket that hit them came from?
And you replied:
> there are photos/videos now. a dozen of burned cars on parking lot. hospital is in one piece. all walls/roofs/etc are intact.
I don't see how your reply answers the question of where the rocket came from, just what you think the rocket hit.
and no, it's not weird. it's common on ycombinator.
in general i find it troubling that statement by hamas taken by everybody at face value, without ask for any proofs (besides 20 sec footage of something burning and 30 sec of doctors taking care of somebody somewhere there was absolutely nothing backing 500 dead and more under rubble). on the other side when idf publishes videos, photos, call intercepts, radar plotes, etc; it's "well, IDF has history of killing people and lying. we will reserve our judgement till we will see this confirmed by independent investigation".
Both sides have a history of "the other side has a history of killing people and lying, we will reserve our judgement". BOTH sides have a history of killing people and lying about it. But then on both sides there are a lot of innocent people being killed regardless.
there was entertaining thread on reddit a few days ago, where people were searching for "widely documented mass rapes by idf". the only documentation going back to statements from 1969 or so. after this everybody were split into 3 camps: - very good in coverup (kinda impossible given amount of human rights organizations that document everything)
- idf dehumanizes palestinians so idf is repulsed from idea of rape
- idf actually has some moral backbon
Especially when we have the live footage from al Jazeera of a failed launch followed by an explosion at the same time as the hospital explosion.
Here is the actual attack: https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1714337776873640216
Find me any other Hamas rocket that does that much damage. Especially when broken up and falling to the ground.
Go find physical evidence of a Hamas rocket doing the amount of damage that was done to the hospital.
This one seems to make a fairly significant blast, and that's one of the shorter range ones.
Plus assuming most of the fuel is still intact since the rocket misfired it could easily generate a 2-3x bigger explosion.
And from the photos it's seems like the explosion at the hospital was about the size of 1-2 cars as well, so fairly similar imo.
And lastly, the explosion at the hospital seems to be ground level, airburst would be higher above the ground.
Anyway, so far the experts who agreed to talk claim it doesn't look like an Israeli rocket explosion
Airburst can happen wherever the fuse is designed to activate.
Here: https://twitter.com/BowesChay/status/1714654233847288050
Direct comparison of a JDAM and the hospital attack.
Maybe, but if you are using airburst it doesn't make much sense to activate it at ground level since it defeats the purpose.
And again, the pictures taking during the day light show very little damage - the surrounding buildings are fully intact, so a JDAM just isn't likely, airburst or not.
Seems more like a fuel tank that blew up causing more fire type damage than anything.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/al-ahli-arab-h...
Channel 4 did an investigation and as expected the IDF bombed the hospital.