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Indeed.

A friend of mine who lives in the US did, on purpose, during the Covid SNAFU, several vaccines he hadn't done in a long time. But he didn't get the COVID vaccine: it was a statement. To anyone saying he was "anti-vax" he'd answer: "I'm not anti-vax, I just had this and that vaccines done".

It was mostly a statement among the many lies of the states, including those saying mask weren't working, then saying they were working and mandatory, then saying HCQ wasn't working (and now it's proven it does work), then saying it was totally impossible the virus leaked from a lab (which is now accepted as a theory that has legs), etc. The lies are just endless.

And he's no dumb guy. Some here have worked for him and he semi-recently did a very nice exit.

You cannot constantly lie to citizens and still expect 100% of them to then follow your wishes.

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Yep... also "you won't get ill", "you won't spread it", and gaslighting later to just "there's a slightly lower chance of dying" (and ignoring the "get vacinated so you won't infect grandma")... not to mention how the whole "herd immunity" died down.

Also all four (available here, pfeizer, J&J, moderna and astrazeneca) vaccines are "safe and efective", then a a few people had major issues with astrazeneca, and a girl here died from J&J, and suddenly "we always recommended mrna vaccines", and then after, only pfeizer was recommended.

Would you provide a citation for the claim that only pfizer is recommended? As opposed to, for example, the current CDC recommendation for the protein subunit Novavax vaccine, which is neither pfizer nor mrna?

This was back in the day when we went down from 4 recommended to just 1. After getting J&J + pfeizer booster + covid twice, I stopped following the current recommendations.

I can find you the links to 'not-recommending' (=countries stop using) the astrazeneca, J&J and moderna if you want.

I can also find you the link to CDC director saying that vaccinated people won't get ill and won't spread it.

Would you care to provide a citation to a randomized clinical trial showing the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for covid-19, please?

> and now it's proven it does work

No it has been proven over and over and over again that it doesn't work. Do you have some sources?

Where has it been proven that HCQ does work, and for what exactly? What actual studies have proven this?

You can find them yourself. But there is are provisos:

a) HCQ must be given early (~3-4 days or less after symptoms begin) hopefully before the virus has significantly damaged the mouth, throat and lungs. Once the viral damage is done then HCQ efficacy declines rapidly.

b) a zinc supplement is given with HCQ. HCQ helps zinc to enter the cell whereupon the zinc halts/slows viral replication.

c) an antibiotic (e.g., azithromycin) is given with HCQ, not to stop the virus but to halt opportunistic bacterial infections that might otherwise enter tissue damaged by the virus.

So you can see why many hospitalization studies showed HCQ ineffective: those studies waited far too long to use HCQ.

It is claimed that such delays are a technique used in drug trials to discard possible inexpensive drugs and promote other patentable and therefore profitable drugs. See R.F. Kennedy Jr.'s book for details:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=THE+REAL+ANTHONY+FAUCI

The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health

by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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