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I'm rather shocked how the quality of their search results has tanked over the years. I used to be able to find decent academic content, or programming related topics quite consistently 5 years ago. Now I'm getting only a few vague results either from stackoverflow, math stackexchange, reddit, or apple, and the rest is just utter garbage. Yandex, of all search engines provide consistently better results. Fortunately, Google Scholar did not suffer this fate yet, but I'm dreading the day when it will.

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yandex and saucenao are my go-to search engines for reverse image searching. Can't tell the last time I used google for that.

I also personally experienced this today as well. I was trying to find the codename for my friends phone on his phone, which has Google as the default browser. I tried 3 different search queries, which gave me nothing but utter garbage. Then I searched it on my phone, which has Yandex as its default browser.

Boom, it just gave me it, straight at the top, on the quick answer dialog. Same for Kagi, which is a paid but good search engine.

Google is ruined, was so much better 6 years ago.

The Russian search engine pops up in the comments whenever Google search quality is discussed here. I am sure this is non-organic astroturfing.

Yandex is a genuinely good alternative. For text search, it isn't overly censored in relation to DMCA risks. Appending terms like 'torrent' actually work. For exact text searching, I found Yandex results to be better.

And Yandex is leagues ahead of Google and Bing in terms of reverse image search.

Google is generally better if you have a more abstract or conceptual query, or if you're not sure what the best term would be.

Nah he’s right. Yandex is pretty good. Easily on par with Google/Bing. I suspect just no one uses it in America so the results aren’t SEO’d to death.

I’d bet Baidu is decent too but that one really isn’t set up to interface with the Western internet.

Baidu is fully integrated into the Party's censorship apparatus and delivers absolutely nothing of use for many categories of query. Couldn't even search for wrist watches for a while.

Comrade, I have personally tried that search engine and found it similar in quality to Bing with just a hint of added excitement from the fear in the back of my mind.

I met the Yandex CEO and CTO in Moscow back in June of 2006 at their headquarters, scouting them out as a Firefox search partner. They had real tech and capable people back then and over the years they got better and better. We eventually signed them as our default in Russia where their native language advantage was a clear win over Google. I still use them occasionally today and find their search to be a solid product.

I would not be surprised if there is some astroturfing going on.

But I've personally found that Yandex to give better search results than Google on some topics. But I also don't trust the company and assume that everything they make has FSB backdoors in it.

Do your own comparison and see it for yourself. It has nothing to do with astroturfing. Google has become objectively bad at search. The results speak for itself.

I like kagi

Are you saying it’s astroturfing because it’s a Russian engine? Nice.

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