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My sister and brother in law are both teachers. Good ones. I make more than double their combined income, and their jobs sound way more stressful. The bil is actively working to switch careers because of it

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It's crazy how little society values kids despite the constant drumbeat of "won't somebody pleaaasee think of the children" when it comes to safety or censorship.

It's important to vote for people locally and federally who support things like the child tax credit, free meals at school, maternity leave, etc. This is especially important since the repeal of Roe V Wade if you live in a place with forced birth.

Is it the stress of the class room or the lack of pay? If all the kids behaved and the admins were great bosses would he be thinking about changing careers? I think there is more than money at play with school test scores.

It sounds like you make more than double most people's income then. Which I guess is not uncommon given the forum.

They're teachers in Mississippi =/

So at least $85k combined, which is about $35k over the state median household. So you're making about $170k, which is still about double the national median household?

Pretty close numbers

Have you asked them how much more we have to pay them in order to get them to do a decent job?

Your brother-in-law will go from working 8.5 months a year to 11.5 months a year, so it makes sense he would earn more

He will never be able to match a teachers pension with 401k though...he might regret it when he is still working and his teacher friends have retired

With expected lifespan, a teacher pension can be worth over a million dollars...zero chance a 401k will deliver half that for most salaries

Teachers work (on and off the clock) >40 hours a week during those 8.5 months though, worth taking into account.

Summer breaks for teachers are much shorter than for students, especially when you take into account required continuing education and professional development.

IME, government teachers have at most 2 weeks of required work days during the summers: one right after school ends, one right before school begins. Depending on the state/ district, that leaves 6-8 weeks of summer break.

They also get more than a month of vacation during the school year: 1 week in fall, 2 weeks in winter, 1 week in spring, plus state holidays.

Even with mandatory continuing education (which many jobs require), government teachers are still getting a few months of vacation. It's not comparable to folks who have to work 11+ months every year.

Only 2 weeks of vacation a year and no holidays? Any professional who is currently employed and not in dire need of a significant pay raise can afford to be more discriminating than to get such a raw deal.

And let me guess, you live somewhere in the midwest or south?

Hopefully not in CA where they want to make mathematics "equitable". Trying to slam on the south isn't helping anyone.

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