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I'd be impressed if the percentage of vets that do drugs is higher than any other similar profession.

A lot of people do hard drugs - I've seen conservative estimates at ~12% of the of the adult and teenage population.

There are hard numbers, which the the parent poster has done no work to find or discuss

https://todaysveterinarynurse.com/practice-management/substa... which has these references (https://www.avma.org/javma-news/2015-09-15/putting-drug-test... was particularly useful). It sounds like, even with more access to abusable substances and stress than the general public, it is not wildly out of proportion to abuse rates of the general public.

1. Kahler SC. Putting Drug Testing Into Practice. avma.org/News/JAVMANews/Pages/150915e.aspx. Accessed July 15, 2019.

2. Geller J. Dark Shadows: Drug Abuse and Addiction in the Veterinary Workplace. veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dark-shadows-drug-abuse-and-addiction-veterinary-workplace?pageID=2. Accessed July 15, 2019.

3. Fishell SL. Signs and Symptoms of Possible Substance Use. cliniciansbrief.com/article/signs-symptoms-possible-substance-use. Accessed July 15, 2019.

4. How to Talk About Addiction. hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/what-can-i-say-to-get-you-to-stop. Accessed July 15, 2019.

5. Guidelines for Veterinary Prescription Drugs. avma.org/KB/Policies/Pages/Guidelines-for-Veterinary-Prescription-Drugs.aspx. Accessed July 15, 2019.

6. What to Do If Your Adult Friend or Loved One Has a Problem with Drugs. drugabuse.gov/related-topics/treatment/what-to-do-if-your-adult-friend-or-loved-one-has-problem-drugs. Accessed July 25, 2019.

Sounds like you met a bunch of junkies that are so determined that they picked their career around drug-access.

Maybe I'm just unlucky, but I have met 4 vets now, all in different walks of life (yoga class, my rock climbing buddies, an ex-colleague who did a career change, and a cousin), and all of them have at least experimented with animal drugs...

Hard to believe it isn't widespread in the industry.

You replied to a post about why vets choose to be vets with "most of them like the fact they get unsupervised access to the drug cabinet and they love the ketamine.."

When challenged, you mention 4 vets you know. You say they've all at least experimented with animal drugs. What portion of the 4 said that was a reason for them to become vets? What portion did more than "at least experiment"? Do either of those represent a majority share of your sample? TBH, I think you would have phrased it differently if they did...

What is it about this small sample which is still influenced by your location, social class, education, etc that makes it representative of all vets?

Just wanted to note the wide gulf between your original reply and where you retreated.

I'm guessing from your name that you are in the UK? That would explain why your experience doesn't map to other countries, as UK has a huge crisis of ketamine abuse.

maybe it's because people who have access to ketamine tend to be more likely to try ketamine? it's not that surprising that some people will take advantage of access to "free" party drugs.

also, ketamine has been shown to help with depression. could be that people are self-medicating.

Guess you've never met anyone in finance, huh?

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