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> anyone that questions unrestricted immigration

No modern country (where people want to immigrate) has or is planning unrestricted immigration. Starting from that kind of strawman doesn't lead to any reasonable argument.

> So, don't blame Musk and the AfD - blame the ultra-progressive EU politicians who believe you have to help everyone who's escaping their country, sustain them on welfare indefinitely, and not criticize them no matter their crimes.

I feel like the only way one can write this with a straight face is if you are ignorant of the AfD's actual stance on issues other than immigration.

Exactly.

https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.879742.de/publikationen/diw_a...

> People who support the AfD would suffer the most from AfD politics, in nearly every area

AfD are the hybrid between a populist and a political prostitute. They voice the real pain points (COVID madness, high cost of energy, immigration etc.) but the proposed solutions are either stupid or paid by their sponsors or both (for example, avoiding vaccines entirely, leaving EU, lifting anti-Russian sanctions etc.)

Supporting the AfD doesn't make you a far-right bigot, it makes you an actual Nazi (also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37724832 ). Distractions from that are not acceptable and will not be forgotten.

Be it as it may, regardless of immigration policy we cannot watch and let people simply die in the sea. That is barbaric and it must be stopped.

Most of the times there are dropped a few miles away from the African coasts, with a good coordination between the smugglers and the NGOs. They then spend the essential of their travel in safe ships. They could travel less if the NGOs policy was to save them and return them to Africa.

Those NGOs are smugglers.

The solution is to take these people from the sea back to where they came from. The idea to rescue them onto a small island so they can flood Europe has been tried, doesn’t work, it only causes more people to try to cross over.

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