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Is this a joke? Windows is notorious for ramming updates down a users throat, whether they want them or not.
As for the aut-updates, for my parent's PC, I'm glad it auto-updates, otherwise they would never update and leave them vulnerable. What's wrong with that? Do you want the latest security patches or not? It's not like I can convince my parents to run sudo pacman -Syu every week.
Not letting me to delay updates is just another level of disrespect. What if I am writing DVD at that time or doing something else without ability to stop and continue? If your parents don't use bitcoins on that Arch setup while sitting on Internets with no router - they don't need to do system update that often.
False. You CAN delay updates. Though, I never do because for security and performance I like to be up to date on the stable branch. Same with 99% of users out there.
>What if I am writing DVD at that time or doing something else without ability to stop and continue?
What are you talking about? What work interruption? When was the last time you actually used Windows 11?
Minor windows updates happen in the background while you can continue doing your work like burning DVDs, and major Windows updates will prompt you that the updates will be applied the next time you re-boot or shut-down, but that will happen at your discression, again, without interrupting your work.
I feel like you might be stuck in a 2013 time loop back when Windows 10 was force-rebooting your PC for updates while users were working.
I got a call from my brother yesterday. He wanted to know how to "fix" his iPhone. He needed to install an app to buy tickets for an upcoming trip and the app said that he "must update to iOS 15.1 or higher".
Somehow, even though he thought he was keeping his phone up-to-date, he missed a couple of years worth of updates.
I don't think trying to help users update is user hostile.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/manage-updates-i...
It doesn't do such a thing. But let's not allow truth to get in the way of a good narrative.
Having drivers for my hardware broken/corrupted because Windows thinks it knows better, is another.
Having to download a third party program to clean up said driver mess before/after I can update any of my components, is another.
Never had that happen though. Ever. WHQL drivers in Windows repos are usually bulletproof which is why they're usually a bit older. It's only when you go and manually install other non-WHQL drivers, that you might run into issues from the lack of testing.
Not saying it couldn't have ever happened to you or anyone else an account of the millions of permutations of possible hardware combinations, but in my experience I never had driver issues from auto-updates since Windows 7 on a variety of desktops and laptops.
I just had to help someone out who was clearly over his head using Ubuntu (a Ph.D. student) after he clicked "yes" to one of these popups, updated his to the next major version, and broke all his python-based installed software he needed for his project.
Windows is full of questionable decisions, but being aggressive with applying (security) updates isn’t one of them.
Also, don’t like updates being rammed down your throat? Apply them yourself.
I had a powerful windows development system running windows 11 pro. I would RDP to this system to work, a while back it wouldn’t connect. The machine was online but I could not RDP into it. I physically went to the machine and connected a monitor to see what was going on. I was presented with a screen urging me to create a Microsoft account to log in locally with. This is what prevented me from getting work done. An advert for a Microsoft account.
That was the last straw for me, I replaced windows on that machine the same day.
Unwanted for who? Maybe a lot of users actually need the newer features that get shipped.
The only alternative is to cling to an old, unsupported, insecure version of Windows, until there is no more hardware that can run it and they need to migrate anyway. I’m really not interested in providing support for people that choose that option so it doesn’t bother me in the least.
yes, but that's for each individual user to judge for themselves whether Windows is still viable for them or not, not you or the HN mob.
I have aa friend who makes a living by being a tech youtuber in my country. He's deep in the Adobe ecosystem and used to rock Ryzen + Nvidia PCs for video workstations and switched to Mac Studios.
He knows how to use Linux but he said he's not gonna put the livelihood of his company and family on jerry-rigged solutions of Linux + FOSS video editing software, and instead just pays Adobe their king's ransome for that piece of mind and security.
Did I say otherwise?