Comment by rany_ | Hacker News Reader

Comment by rany_ | Hacker News Reader

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It is true though, lest we forget that Samsung managed to make the Galaxy S5 IP67 water resistant... this phone meanwhile is IP57 rated, which is actually even worse. If they tell you "it's harder with the headphone jack" that's not a good enough reason either, just try harder; it's not worth omitting when we know it is possible.

Samsung was able to pull this off with the S5 A DECADE AGO:

- removable back

- removable battery

- headphone jack

- SD card slot

- IP67 water resistant

This is an anti-environment moneygrab plain and simple. They omit the headphone jack so that they sell you the solution, which just so happens to be their brand of wireless headphones, dongle, whatever... if you actually like FairPhone you'd criticize them over this bullocks instead of being an uncritical parrot.

And to be fair, those phones quickly got to the point where the flap over the USB port would break or not seal. And the back would get loose, because Samsung ruined the OS so it needed frequent battery removed reboots. And the finger print sensor wouldn't work if your finger had been near water in the last 12 hours. So it had constant warnings about the above.

The S8 I had was the low point of Android ownership for me.

Fairphones are more bulky because they are modular, are easy to open, and don't use glue. If there is space for 3.5mm you might have a point.

I would prefer two USB-C over one USB-C plus one 3.5mm. It would be more useful to a lot of customers.

> If there is space for 3.5mm you might have a point.

I don't think you get it. The reason why there isn't any space for 3.5mm now is because they didn't want to add it, they could add the space if they so choose. This is not a problem you should think about, it should be the designer/engineer/etc's concern to figure out how to fit it in.

It is normal for there to not be any space in portable electronics, that just means they've utilized all the space they had optimally; it doesn't mean they can't add more features and redesign it to accommodate the jack.

I think I get it perfectly fine. We just seem to disagree on the necessity and the viable alternative (two USB-C).

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