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Since nobody has mentioned: iOS 17 and macOS Sonoma brings family sharing to password managerm. Sonoma also brings support for using native passwordsl manager in Chrome using a chrome extension developed by Apple.

For families who are hooked into Apple's ecosystem, this can provide a much better password management than third party tools.

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It’s a great way to get further locked into Apple’s ecosystem. Good luck if you ever need to move to an alternative platform.

iCloud Keychain has csv export. There’s no more lockin than there is with other password managers.

Note: This is sort of true but is highly misleading. csv export is only possible on a Mac (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251108577). So, iPhone/iPad/PC users are pretty much out of luck Additionally, I don’t believe passkey’s are exportable at all. Lack of actual functioning backup options is the primary reason I’m not using iCloud Keychain, so I would love to have these issues fixed.

Good luck ever having a better alternative platform to move to.

Oh there are so many.

Especially ones better than MacOS.

I have been looking to move away from 1Password and did look into this. The thing that prevented me from doing so is that if someone got access to your AppleID (through phishing or social engineering), it allows them to essentially take control of your entire online presence. Right now, I try to keep the single point failures to a minimum (ie don't keep Apple ID in password manager). Is this a concern that's worth thinking about or am I just shifting the problem from one place to another?

Then your iCloud account gets banned and you lose everything.

Should’ve had better backups.

You can’t backup the entire iCloud Keychain, only export to csv which doesn’t contain everything. (For instance passkey secrets)

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