This is a false dichotomy. Your choice is to pay extra for a logo, or pay less for equivalent quality but no logo. You choose logo. Why?
The point here is that you're misunderstanding why the logo matters. I don't care if there's a logo on my shorts or not - I care what the logo represents, which is a brand that consistently produces high-quality goods. I'm willing to pay more for that, especially when it saves me time shopping.
Check this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil
Y'know, you seem more focused on logos and their importance than anybody else here. I would never been embarrassed for someone wearing a certain kind of shoe. I'm not judging people based on logos, since what brand of shoe someone else is wearing has absolutely no impact on my life.
For athletic shoes, I wear Mizunos. Went to a good running store once, spent an hour with the old grizzled guy there until I found a shoe I liked, and I've stuck with the brand ever since. They've got a big logo on the side, but again, I don't care about that; I care about the fact that I know the shoe will be high quality and fit well.
> No need to rely on logos, which is weakly correlated to quality.
No, that's a made up fact that is wrong. Brands tend to be pretty consistent in their quality over time, especially those that have been around a while.
> Check this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil
I'm not going to check that channel because, again, the point here is that I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning about how shoes are made. I just want to buy a good quality shoe (or short, or whatever) and brand is a fine proxy for that. The amount of money I spend buying a reputable brand is well worth it given the time I save by not watching videos like whatever the one you linked is.
You said you use logos as a proxy for quality because you don't have time to understand how to evaluate quality, nor learn what brands have quality but no logos. There is an inconsistency there. How would you know quality if "does it have a logo?" is how you evaluate it?
> The amount of money I spend buying a reputable brand is well worth it given the time I save
Do you save time and money though, for real? Clothing is literally the thing that touches your body the overwhelming majority of your time and clothed is the only way the vast majority of people will ever see you. Isn't it worth taking an afternoon or a weekend and learning the fundamentals of how to look good? I mean if you want to spend a lot of money on a reputable brand and be sure of quality, try https://www.jcrew.com or if you want to be adventurous https://makia.com/
Alright, internet stranger, I'm sorry to have upset you. If you genuinely love Adidas track suits and the Nike swoop on your hat and the LV on your bag, then fly that flag high and proud! No one can stop you.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site to heart, we'd be grateful.
Your solution is to spend hours upon hours of research and spend more money on a product to avoid a logo, which most people actually don’t ever notice or care about.
Why would someone be embarrassed about common projects?
Now I can’t say they’re worth $450 or whatever. And no idea if they’re better than Koio’s—had I found a used pair of those for cheaper, I’d own those instead. So with all things, YMMV. I agree with the sentiment of “don’t equate brand/price with quality” tho
Logos are not emblematic of quality, but of good marketing (shoes aside - Nike makes good sneakers).
For these particular type of products - and I'm not claiming this is true in all product categories! - that logo does in fact mean it is a quality, well tested product.
I like 1 particular brand of backpack with a slightly prominent logo on it.
I do not believe there is an equivalent quality made by a brand without the logo I buy.
You'll find one, but it probably won't be the car that you wanted the most nor the one that fitted your needs the best.