The Ramones were New Wave? What?
The Ramones were New Wave? What?
Here's a radio ad for the Sex Pistols playing Dallas in January 1978. "The Sex Pistols bring the new wave to the Metroplex this Tuesday night at the Longhorn Ballroom."
“New Wave” as a genre has never really felt well-defined for me, similar to the “Indie Rock” genre back in the 90’s.
The Talking Heads are a white funk rock group that appeal to 80s college kids. There was rarely any taste crossover into synth-pop, new wave or punk. More like Bob Marley, David Bowie, Tom Waits, REM, and Red Hot Chili Peppers. Most of the big Talking Heads fans I know stopped listening to new music after 1990.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wave_(compilation_album)
I also have some very uninformed personal thoughts on the term "pre-punk" which I find really silly. All it really means is that the Sex Pistols weren't nearly as original as the mythmaking states, and a lot of other bands were playing in the same sandbox before and after. It's not like every punk and post-punk band after the Pistols was primarily influenced by their sound. It was their posture.
You can tell an alternate history of music that deemphasizes the Sex Pistols where there was a New Wave that started in the early 70s with the New York Dolls or the Stooges or something, and it includes the Ramones, the Modern Lovers, the Buzzcocks and a whole lot more. I'm not nearly knowledgable enough to really put the pieces together, beyond half-remembering this book I read several years ago. Still, it's fun to think about.
What do Duran Duran have to do with the Talking Heads? Pretty close to nothing. I don't even see talking heads as much of a "punk band". Especially, in the mid-late eras, they seem more like a proto-jamband, but I'll admit I don't understand the style differences at a purely musical level.
Other "new wave" acts really look more like just punk bands. I don't understand how the ramones got classified as new wave... do they use synths? That's not THE distinguishing factor, but it makes it look more like new wave, vs. traditional punk.
... but maybe a punk band can use synths without crossing over into "new wave".
I talked to a French Horn player who's actually played some of his stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenada_Schizophrana
coming to San Jose!
They never really made it big nationally, or chose not to, in terms of touring. I even saw the then new “Red Hot Chili Peppers” open for them, who far eclipsed them is n popularity.
But at the same time, they were very local, and really accessible to local fans.
They did a few large venues, but I never saw them at any of those. Elfman is said to have stopped touring due to the risk to his hearing because of how loud concerts were becoming, and him and Steve Bartek (Boingo guitarist and collaborator) transitioned quite successfully to movie soundtracks.
I have to assume the advancements in things like in ear monitors make live performances much less damaging for performers. I’ve worn ear plugs at concerts for years.
And don’t anyone tell me they were “proto-punk” that’s just ridiculous