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> technology that rivals government spy agencies

From my personal experience, that's saying they have bored inexperienced coders, who use outdated tools and techniques that any CS sophomore would laugh at. And are much more worried about working the internal politics to get promoted. Than to get any actual work done.

I bet mexican hackers are better than that.

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> From my personal experience...

I'm just curious - are you implying that you've personally encountered this sort of thing at government spy agencies or just that much of the government seems to have these characteristics?

I've worked assisting law enforcement in tech, related to cryptography. Talked to many people, seen their code, methods and training. It's sad.

thers a world of diference bewteen a local police force and the TLA's

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