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Cultures that treat their younger generations like trash, demanding servitude and giving no meaningful aid or care to families with young children, are reaping what they sow.

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> Cultures that treat their younger generations like trash, demanding servitude and giving no meaningful aid or care to families with young children, are reaping what they sow.

America?

TBH, by some measures Japan also applies here. They do better on a lot of measures, but their parenting story is one of pushing all responsibilities onto the woman and keeping men at the office late forever. That's a different type of servitude and denial of care to families with young children than America, but it matches the OP's comment.

Not OP, but ostensibly Japan considering they even have a name for death from overwork.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi

Though given the political climate in the US, it wouldn't surprise me if the US suffers from a bit of it.

So does America. It's called "The American Dream."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_Salesman

They want the next generation to have babies, but have made no affordances for them to have homes to do so.

Give it some time, but yeah, we will be in the same dire place before long if we cant manage some pretty big cultural and economic changes

We solve it with immigration currently.

Canada has also been doing this since the 1970s. They haven’t been able to naturally replenish their population since 1972.

The problem is that now even countries in the EU realize that they can’t maintain their populations and their entitlement programs without immigration despite the backlash from the native population. What makes things worse is that nearly every country is suffering from declining birthrates now, even developing countries with the exception of Central Africa so it’s unlikely to be a long term solution anymore.

In the coming decades, countries will likely start to compete for younger immigrants

> In the coming decades, countries will likely start to compete for younger immigrants

that would be the rational thing to do, however so much of our politics surrounding immigration are not rational.

We legally immigrate about 1 million people a year, it's the illegal immigration that people take issue with.

What we consider illegal immigration now used to be legal when our country was more prosperous. Of course, the main problem with not having the current immigration legislation is our massive entitlement system. Imo the reason it was able to work before was because there wasn’t a giant, social safety net. Regardless of which side of the argument you’re on about that, economy is now too weak to shoulder the load of providing benefits for everyone AND playing world police (even though the later is now important again for national interests). Of course, it will get even worse if we don’t have replacements for working adults, and elderly retirees begin to outnumber everyone

I believe the only thing that changed was the political asylum allowance.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/seeking-protection-how-us-a...

You’re probably right on the legal side based on my quick scan of the history of US immigration. It looks like what changed is the effectiveness of enforcement which drastically gotten better in the Information Age.

The problem is culture as a concept in general. I.e, "set of socially accepted rules that people follow just because thats what the previous generation did".

Cultural norms need to be erased as a whole from humanity.

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