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Yeah it must be the kool aid and not the fact that the average iPhone user barely ever transfers anything from their iPhone to a PC much less ever uses their cable for data transfer.

I know more seniors that know their way around AirDrop (or things “magically” appearing on their desktop device via iCloud, unbeknownst to them) than people that even realize that the cable they use to charge their iPhone could also transfer data.

Next you’re gonna tell me that they don’t care about Cat5 because they’re brainwashed to think WiFi is necessary to get internet.

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And you're also brainwashed to think that the only way to get stuff from your phone to your PC wirelessly is via iCloud.

I use SyncThing and it works fantastically, with no fees and no spying.

> And you're also brainwashed to think that the only way to get stuff from your phone to your PC wirelessly is via iCloud.

Keep your strawmen to yourself, I never stated iCloud is the only way to transfer data.

> I use SyncThing and it works fantastically, with no fees and no spying.

Good for you. I don’t recall asking.

Grow up and accept that other people have preferences that differ from yours and maybe in the process you’ll also learn that using FOSS doesn’t make you as edgy and cool as you think.

As an aside, I can only surmise you don’t even know what iCloud entails because not only does SyncThing not officially support iOS (you know, the topic at hand), but even using the only available *paid* option, Möbius, doesn’t even come close to the iCloud experience.

>not only does SyncThing not officially support iOS (you know, the topic at hand), but even using the only available paid option, Möbius, doesn’t even come close to the iCloud experience.

You do realize that this comment only further shows how brainwashed Apple victims are, which was precisely what my initial comment was about?

That they have internalized and accept that their artificially crippled devices won't allow you to transfer data privately to your own PC without using their cloud, which comes with the associated costs and privacy implications? They are artificially crippling devices to monetize your data.

Apple is ruining computing, and Apple victims are too shortsighted to be concerned about it.

I can’t walk up to a friend or family member and Airdrop them some photos with SyncThing. Also, I thought iCloud is encrypted, no?

I was talking about getting data from your phone to your PC without sending it to Apple.

I don't understand why people accept that it's necessary to send that data to Apple and back in order to perform such a basic function.

It doesn't matter if it's encrypted or not, that's still an artificial limitation that Apple has put on the devices you supposedly "own", all so they can monetize your data.

But Apple will tell you these limitations are for your own good, or security or something.

And people seem to love the taste of that refreshing kool-aid.

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