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I'll need to buy new AirPods too, unless I want to carry a lightning cable around too. Or just always use wireless charging with them.

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Don't forget you can now plug your airpods into the phone instead of needing a charger.

One of the features of my S10 I ended up loving is the ability to charge my (wirelessly chargeable) headphones via my S10 which can act as a wireless charger

The S10 line is long past its feature-updates timeline and may have just received its last security update, so I fear yours and my S10e are soon to be retired.

I will greatly miss the SD slot and headphone jack...

Samsung peaked with the S10. I don't know what I'm going to move on to when mine gets too long in the tooth.

Yup! I actually intend to trade mine in for an iPhone 15 now that they finally have USB C.

Sony still have SD slots and headphone jacks in their top-line Xperias, I switched there from Samsung for exactly that reason.

LineageOS works very well on the S10e

This might be asking too much, but it would be neat if the phone was on a low battery (less than 10%), when you plug in a peripheral like the Airpods it will know to instead charge the phone from the plugged in device. Or for that matter, to be able to plug one iPhone from another iPhone without any risk of your phone's data being accessed.

Although it would be speculation, I imagine this will be included because USB-C iPads already have this feature.

One can charge a range of devices, including other iPads from a USB-C iPad. One can even change the charge direction between the two devices.

Charging on these devices is independent from data access. The user is prompted to allow data access which requires authorisation.

I was searching for your comme t since 3 hours or so. Now that the event is over, do you know whether an iPhone 15 can charge another iPhone 15 directly ? A Pro?

What do you mean? Wouldn't you still need a charger between the phone and the airpods case?

It's charging off your phone battery which to me is crazy considering how hard it is to replace the iphone battery

I don't want more cycles on a battery that isn't user serviceable

The iPhone 14 battery is considered user serviceable (but not the pro), the iPhone 15 pro has now adopted the 14's design. Basically the rear panel is now straightforward to remove, when before one had to go in through the front.

I almost shouted “SCREWS!!!” when I saw them on the Pro during the video.

> how hard it is to replace the iphone battery

its like 30 minute job, maybe less for pros

p.s. if you don't like the feature - don't use it!

So easy!

I assumed it was meant for occasional use by people on the go (like on an airplane without a charging port) who need to charge their AirPods case.

It seems unlikely that people will routinely charge their AirPods from their phone when they could just as easily use the same charger that they just charged up their phone with.

The battery inside your headphones is negligible. Each (for Airpod Pro) is ~1% of your phone's battery. The case has a little over 10%, if charged from 0-100%

No.

If you have AirPods with wireless charging, you can charge them off your iPhone, it sounds like.

But I'll be carrying around a USB-A to Lightning cord when I'm traveling anyway, since hotels/airplanes/airports are still on USB-A.

EDIT: Looks like I was confused by this brief description, and they were just saying that you can plug the peripherals into the iPhone. NBD.

I carry a cable that has USB-A/USB-C on one end and USB-C/Lightning on another. Works great, but this particular has a connector that is a bit bulky and doesn't fit some cases (not my problem tho)

Wait, what??

I'm pretty sure I heard them mention that during the iPhone 15 segment. I could be wrong though.

EDIT: yep, per Ars Technica, you can now charge your Apple Watch or AirPods off the iPhone 15: https://live.arstechnica.com/apples-september-12-2023-wonder...

Through the cable not wirelessly

I think they're referring to plugging a usb cable into the phone to charge a device.

It might work without plugging in the iPhone, but I imagine most times it would be plugged, overnight or whatever.

This is honestly a pretty great feature, and actually makes me more likely to buy an Apple Watch. I don't want to have to bring another charge cable with me, and now I wouldn't have to. I wonder what the charge speed is though — I wouldn't want to have to charge it overnight.

EDIT: Thanks for clarifying, it took me a while to understand based on what they had said and what Ars reported. I can see that it's just the same as how you can plug any peripheral into an iPad and charge off its battery. Now you can do the same with iPhone...big deal.

No, I think you connect a cable from the iPhone's charge port to the AirPod's charge port.

Apple's page says this under the USB-C section:

>The new USB-C connector lets you charge your Mac or iPad with the same cable you use to charge iPhone 15. You can even use iPhone 15 to charge Apple Watch or AirPods. Bye-bye, cable clutter.

With a footnote that leads to this:

> The included USB‑C Charge Cable is compatible with AirPods Pro (2nd generation) with MagSafe Charging Case (USB‑C).

Not to mention the Apple Watch takes a special rounded magnetic charger. I don't think it would interface correctly otherwise.

Not to mention the Apple Watch takes a special rounded magnetic charger.

I wonder how much energy is lost when charging wirelessly.

They don't support wireless charging from phone to airpods. That would be great, and is available on some android devices. This was referring to being able to charge your airpods or watch by plugging them into your phone with a cable.

Oh, that's silly. If I had a charge cable with me I'd also have my computer or iPad, which I can use to charge.

You might... but most people won't? A cable slips into a purse easily for a night out or something.

There is a zero percent chance that I would ever want to boost my AirPods case, (which I charge every few days) while draining my iPhone (which I charge daily). If I had an Apple Watch, I would not bring the puck charger with me anywhere. I don't think that "most people" would; a subset of iPhone users have purses, and a subset of iPhone users have Apple Watches. I'm pretty sure the intersection of those two subsets is not even close to the majority of iPhone users.

The "charge iot thing wirelessly from phone" feature on my Samsung phones for the past few generations isn't used every day but it is useful every so often. E.g. go on a trip but forget smartwatch charger. No problem the phone can do it in a pinch. Or: family member gets their phone wet causing it to not charge wired until it dries. No problem my phone can charge their phone wirelessly.

Luckily the newer AirPods cases can charge from an Apple Watch charger so I don’t need to fiddle with cables.

EDIT - disregard this, it's charging with cables only using the iPhone as a battery

iPhone 15 will charge your watch and airpods from the back of the phone, so you don't even need to travel with the watch charging cable anymore.

Samsung did this already (branded as "PowerShare") so it's the year of iPhone catching up on charging features.

Where have you seen Apple mention this ability? In the presentation they specifically called out being able to charge airpods via iphone _with_ a cable, not wireless charging between airpods and iphone.

I am surprised apple hasn't included this ability yet. My pixel 6 pro also has this ability.

Aah good catch, I misinterpreted it that way from the arstechnica liveblog. You can charge them from the phone using a USB C-to-C cable (airpods) or C-to-puck cable for the watch. Not quite as convenient, but still good to have.

This is just a very standard feature of dual-role USB devices, no?

I was also really hoping for wireless "MagSafe-out" charging for the Apple Watch, which would come in very handy when traveling – often there's limited outlets on hotel nightstands, and sometimes I just forget the watch charger.

Yeah, my solution for traveling has been a Satechi Quatro power bank, which has built in Qi and Apple Watch chargers. It's not MagSafe so lining up the phone on the charging pad is a bit fiddly, but it means I can charge my phone/watch/battery all from one USB-C plug and don't need a lightning or watch cable.

If I'm traveling with a computer too I use a 2x USB-C wall wart to fit everything in one plug. Not perfect, but beats the rat's nest of cables that it replaced.

Since the Qi charger isn't MagSafe it doesn't really work for topping up the phone from the battery on the go, so I often end up tossing a short Lightning cable in my bag anyway. Will be nice to have USB-C eventually and not worry about that (but I intend to drag this iPhone mini out for a good 5 years).

https://satechi.net/products/quatro-wireless-power-bank

my AirPods came with a USB-C to lightning, so that will still work with the phone to charge on the go

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37485328. (There's nothing wrong with it - I'm just trying to prune the top-heavy thread)

I carry these around. They are standard USB cables with USB A and USB C on one end and USB C and Lightning on the other end.

https://a.co/d/fxsaZ58

I've been using mostly wireless charging with my current phones; and watch (you have to there) mainly because the lightning port would usually be the first thing to die.

I wonder if they'll sell cases alone for existing AirPods.

I keep my iPhones for many years before buying a new one and never had the lighting port die. What happens though is that the port gets dirt inside and stops working. There are tiny brushes (available on Amazon) which solve it and the port starts working again.

Nevertheless still good that now only one cable is required - especially since the iPad and iMac use USB-C as-well.

Not sure what to do with the AirPods - hopefully the wireless charging directly from iPhone 15 will make it unnecessary to have to carry the cable for the pods.

This is my experience as well.

Because it is so hard to charge them like every 5 days or more at home where you have a litany of cables laying around..

Maybe you could just get a new airpods usb c case?

And get new iPhones and Airpods for the rest of the family...

I really hope you are kidding. Can't say. Many people are ditching perfectly good tech these days...

Yes, obviously I was kidding.

I'm looking forward to the day when I need to pack only USB-C cables when we go on family vacation, but it's still going to be a couple of years until we replaced the last device with lightning port (especially iPads seem to last forever).

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