But seriously I have no idea of a single remotely well-known application that satisfies the above. If the modern web is so bad where are the products that prove that it can be done better more simply? There’s billions to be made if that’s true in all industries, is nobody skilled capable of capitalizing on this gold mine of opportunity wherein the entire industry is self sabotaging?
I’m left to conclude that these HN commenters with their hot takes about how the modern web sucks just generally either don’t understand what makes products successful or never have truly experienced the issues these frameworks solve for.
There are actual forums of normies and the most notorious meme factory on the internet is hardly a wonder of UX technology.
We are not on some subreddit for a reason.
This has other reasons though, like the fact that this site has better moderation and better users in general.
The simple truth is people are drawn to websites for what they get out of them.