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the substance of your argument is that you don't understand that different countries/societies/cultures/jurisdictions have different historical experiences/legal traditions/ founding principals/values/politics that make words like censorship very contextual.

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Gotcha, censorship of stuff you don't like isn't censorship

I don't think anyone in this whole discussion claimed that?

Just people disagreeing about where to draw the line on what censorship is acceptable and what is not. The US and NZ draw that line in different places.

It seems to me that Americans in this discussion are trying to win some kind of moral argument, where as I'm just explaining how the world is, not how it ought to be.

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