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I want everyone here to completely get over the fantasy fairytale idea that Microsoft can be moved on this by typical "consumer feedback" types of responses.

We've been here too long, and we know what Microsoft is and what they do.

Switch operating systems, or push for EXTERNAL changes in law and policy.

The other stuff is futile.

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If I had a dollar for every time HN confused HN for the real world, I'd be a trillionaire.

Which currency though?

This toxic shit is intentional, and the people who direct the business are very pleased with the money they are making. This will not change without force of law. The market is getting exactly what it wants.

Yup. The flipside being that, at least until recently, "the market" didn't know that Linux was an alternative here. It's starting to. Of course, half the people here in HN love that, and the other half actively and/or passively work against it.

KPIs gonna KPI

My way of dealing with this is simple, I just don't care. If I were forced to use Windows at work, it'd be annoying, I might curse a few times, but I'd still get my work done at the end of the day.

Sure, but what I'd like to get more people to do (I do this, I teach IT for a living) is to think of it perhaps a little like ecology/ the environment? None of us can individually solve climate change, but that doesn't mean "do nothing."

First steps are to talk about it. We've handled shitty companies before, with regulation and other means, we could do it here. Or at least try, which is worth it.

The difference is that the environment (aka the entire world) dwarfs the importance of desktop operating systems. I'll do my part there. Meanwhile I assume Windows's days are numbered somehow, but even if it weren't, I'm not stuck with it. I'm stuck with certain other bad tooling at work instead.

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