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How many "average" drivers do you run into every day that accelerate into cross traffic on a red light?

Well I don't drive much, but when I do I definitely see people running reds.

The question is how many. If you encounter 100 cars on your daily commute are >50 of them running red lights? Or is it more like the bottom 1%? Would you be okay if self driving cars on the street fall in that 1%?

Average Pittsburgh drivers?

Hey now, just because YOU haven't read the "unwritten Pittsburgh driver's manual (zeroeth edition)" doesn't mean NONE OF US have ...

See here for pre-release addenda, all that's available on the public internet this moment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/dv9j08/what_are...

Now, if yinz'll excuse me, the driver in the opposite lane going straight has out-of-state plates. So, I need to stop typing this message to peel out / teach them a valuable lesson about right-of-way when the stop light changes in Yinzerville - as I head to a city-government-sanctioned hazard-light parking spot directly in front of Primanti's to pick up my slaw with fries and sandwich garnish (and sugar with coffee and cream).

I've seen several do exactly that on Reddit's IdiotsInCars over time.

The question is about average driving. Would you be okay with self driving cars on the streets that drive at the level of videos posted in IdiotsInCars?

And most people would agree that the people in those videos should be getting tickets and worse.

With their software, Tesla is more of an active participant in those ill-fated decisions and mistakes. So they deserve to bear more of the responsibility.

Not defending the buggy FSD in this specific video, but I've seen drivers anticipate a green and jump a bit into a red light. If you are the impatient type who inches forward the entire time you have a red light for no reason, you can easily move into the actual intersection, especially at smaller intersections. I've done it myself from time to time, nobody's perfect.

This is obviously worse because you have to be paying attention and be able to quickly take over, but it's not like this type of thing would never happen with a human driver.

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