Scientists develop sophisticated models that show the dangers of global warming "We'll deal with it before it becomes a problem."
The catastrophic consequences are now being felt on a regular basis "Okay, it's definitely time for gradual, market-based solutions to global warming."
The catastrophic consequences are now being felt on a regular basis "Okay, it's definitely happening, but it’s too late to do anything about it, so let’s just live it up until extinction."
seems like there's still plenty of denial to go around
I'm a little sour on this term because it acts (consciously or unconsciously) to deflect from the actual problem of large-scale desiccation. Every time I hear it makes me think of someone saying 'Mars never has forest fires, because the vegetation has been cleared properly.'
Forests naturally burn. In California (at least) trees have features specifically evolved to fit into an environment with periodic natural fires. There are written reports of fires in North America going back many hundreds of years, and I believe the natives experienced fires before that as well, as evidenced by cultural practices and oral history.
So you can either not manage the forests and avoid building into areas that would be affected by natural fires, or you can build into those areas but you do need to manage the forests.
Where do you get the idea that forests don’t need to be managed if we are to live in and around them? It seems like magical thinking to me.
Note that this is orthogonal to the effect a warming earth has on severity. Qualitatively, you needed to manage forests in North America 1,000 years ago, and you still need to manage them today.
Yes, this is what I have in mind. If you want to live in a forest you need to assume you'll be on your own in the case of natural disasters and have some survival/escape plan. Building into/exploiting all available primeval land seems like a Bad Thing to me.
it goes well beyond that, the bark beetles have killed a lot of pine trees, which is just standing dead timber. now dry that out and you have dead forests full of kindling.
Scientists treat their jobs as sinecure, benefit from unpublished data and closed-source code while receiving public funding
Nothing to see here, people, get that Believe Science t-shirt and move on.
> The catastrophic consequences are now being felt on a regular basis "Okay, it's definitely time for gradual, market-based solutions to global warming."
I guess you disagree with economists who won the most prestigious award in their field and who also build sophisticated models? Pick your own dismal science to root for! Being a science believer have never been so exciting, now you can treat it like football or politics!
The "dismal's" fine, it's "science" where they patently prevaricate.
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