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Maybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.

Doesn't this entirely depend both on what its been trained on and what style is being output? But also, philosophically, is it even "theft" to make something in-the-style-of someone?

I believe these questions and their complex answers are the reason you've been downvoted.

I understand why the person was downvoted, but not why the person was flagged. It doesn't make sense for someone to flag "AI art is theft."

Downvotes because you didn't back up what you mean.

Flagged because there are AI fanboys that want to sensor speech perhaps?

I would say that it absolutely deserved to be flagged because it was a comment of little engagement.

It both isn't directly related to the original post, and also didn't even make any particular arguments. It was just a 5 word declaration of fact, that is borderline offtopic.

Flagged because it was an unsubstantive comment as dang mentioned and also that it's increasingly a flame bait topic on HN, same as with Copilot and licensing.

Downvotes because the userbase here is rabidly supportive of any new "AI" tech regardless of the consequences, damage, or ethics surrounding it. But of course, we can never take a critical view of technology on Hackernews.

Theft takes the original, piracy makes a copy, AI art remixes the original. I’m not sure how to classify AI art but it definitely isn’t theft.

So piracy may be involved in training the model, but the rest does not follow.

Art inspired by other art has been the way of things for as long as we've been creating images. There's no such thing as a "clean-room painting."

Using unlicensed copies of other people's work in training is the problem, along with what that does to the market for original works. Using people's labor for AI training without permission or compensation will discourage people from sharing that work and ultimately make the AI models worse too.

Derivative works with zero copyright protection due to the predominance of machine assists

No way to quantify though, for or against copy protection

But thats a convenient compromise for now

"This pixel right here officer; clearly stolen."

Why, did you lose your art because of AI?

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