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Seems like a good project but this is a deal breaker for me

> Nvidia and Intel GPUs are not supported

Any specific reason why that is? Or if it’s in roadmap?

It is a copy of SteamOS which uses its own Wayland compositor (Gamescope) that is not compatible with anything other than AMD (since it was originally intended to only be used with Steam Deck, there was no reason to make it work anywhere else)

I would have thought that installation of Nvidia driver packages for Arch would do the trick. I'll admit that I'm unfamiliar with the interaction between GPU drivers and Wayland, so I'm guessing it would just result in an unstable combination?

Not just unstable, until I think 2 years ago literally not useable as the nvidia proprietary drivers didn't implement useable GBM by default, so even if it didn't hard crash it would never show anything besides a blank screen.

https://github.com/swaywm/sway/commit/b48cb6b0ec1320ad25fd2c...

Intel's dGPUs have a ~0% market share, Nvidia's driver situation is a shitshow.

Intel GPUs dominate the market by far. Every Intel CPU since 2010 has a GPU, with only very specific exceptions.

I believe the "d" part of "dGPU" is tripping you up here -- the "d" is "discrete", meaning unbundled from the CPU. IOW, Intel GPUs that are not bundled with the CPU have roughly a 0% market share.

Source states "Intel GPUs are not supported", parent comment noted Intel discrete GPUs have no marketshare.

Parent comment is thus irrelevant at best, misguided at worst. Not supporting Intel GPUs is throwing away the dominant leader in the GPU market.

We're talking about a dedicated gaming system here, iGPUs are pretty much irrelevant in that context. Things would be different in the context of a browser or word processor.

Besides, counting "1 Intel CPU sale = 1 Intel GPU" is misguided since that would count everyone using an Intel CPU with a dGPU as an Intel GPU customer, even if the iGPU sits idle 100% of the time.

Looking at a more representative demographic, the Steam users[0], Intel has a 9% market share, vs AMD's 15% and Nvidia's 85%. I don't know whether this also overcounts hybrid-GPU users (Optimus/DSG) into the iGPU bucket as well.

[0]: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Title should be changed to "Instantly Turn 12% of PCs into a gaming console" because that's what fraction of the GPU market AMD has.

It probably uses SteamOS, which has no need to include Intel drivers, and probably absolutely no desire to include proprietary Nvidia binary blobs.

Probably supports just AMD because the focus of this is for mini pcs from companies like Beelink etc that use either mobile AMD cards or on board graphics from an AMD chip. Mini pcs are currently dominated by AMD hardware.

Thanks, that makes sense. Intel is also getting out of NUC market. But there are still lots of NUCs out there that could be used as a light gaming server.

I've been running ChimeraOS on a NUC and it works fine

I guess it has to do with their lack of open source drivers, and I bet you can install NVidia or Intel drivers by yourself.

The Intel GPU drivers have been open source for years.

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