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>This is the era when Google decided to get "real managers" and they hired a bunch of executives from places like Oracle, IBM, and Intel.

Wrong. The problem with Google started with the new CEO. The decision to focus on Facebook, the Motorola acquisition, Google+, integration across all Google products and services,etc. these are not mid-level management decisions. These are decisions made by Larry Page.

The problem is with the CEO.

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Why is integration a problem? It's working pretty well for Apple.

Because Apple sells products.

Google sells YOUR personal information that you do NOT want to share to advertisers.

Big difference.

This is not true. Google does not sell personal information; no advertiser ever learns anything about you. Google learns about you and it learns about the advertiser, and then uses that information to match ads and users. Yes, we make money from that. But it's a huge leap from that to "selling your personal information".

The privacy policy says: "We will ask for your consent before using information for a purpose other than those that are set out in this Privacy Policy," and selling your information is not listed there. Read it for yourself, it's pretty short!

>Google sells YOUR personal information that you do NOT want to share to advertisers.

According to Google, this is not true. https://www.google.com/search?q=Google+does+not+share+person...

Just a nitpick... but is there a particular link in these results that you want us to view?

There's probably ample evidence to support your claim, but linking to search results doesn't seem all that helpful. (If Google is still personalizing web searches or if someone has blocked a domain from their results we could be looking at different lists.)

He just means that there is no reference to 'Google does not share personal information with advertisers' on the internet.

Which Internet were you using for research? My Internet contained 128,000,000 results (or thereabout) for the provided link.

It seems like your confusing bad management with having a business model you don't like.

Why would I not want to share my personal information with advertisers. I certainly don't want to be marketed feminine hygiene products if I am a male. I also don't want to get offered oracle integration products if I am a Microsoft SQL shop. Targeted advertising is fine by me.

Is it possible, that you haven't thought this to the end. When you don't get advertising of feminine hygiene products, because you are a male, it is also possible, that you get no insurance advertisings, because you do free climbing. More, it is possible, you don't get cheap insurance or even any insurance because you habe only searched for free climbing or clicked on advertisement for free climbing products.

You understand. The industrie washes your brain to only see the positive side effects and don't think about the negative ones.

Just because you're ok with it, doesn't mean other people are.

Those people could, you know, not use Google. But I bet there aren't/won't be many of those in practice.

I think those decisions are totally right. It is very clear that social network is important. It is very clear that google needs really good phone/tablet products that other manufactures can not provide.

Google+ is a new product. Don't make a judgement so early. It is getting better everyday.

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