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It seems to be more powerful than langflow and flowise

https://github.com/logspace-ai/langflow

https://github.com/FlowiseAI/Flowise

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ChainForge looks similar visually, but is very different in practice. We target evaluating and inspecting LLM outputs, rather than building LLM applications. So, some things are certainly easier to do in CF, while others will certainly be easier in other tools that target LLM app building.

k i need somebody to do a comparison table for us...

We will mostly do this comparison when we write our research paper. I can post it here when we do it.

I can't comment on the features, but ChainForge has some catching up to do...mind share wise. Below are some community insights for langflow, Flowise and ChainForge

https://devboard.gitsense.com/logspace-ai/langflow

https://devboard.gitsense.com/FlowiseAI/Flowise

https://devboard.gitsense.com/ianarawjo/ChainForge

Flowise currently has the largest active community (based on GitHub data)

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We don’t view it as a competition here. These other tools are for LLM app building, which is great, but isn’t the focus of ChainForge. Instead, we’re focused on helping devs find the right prompt, and evaluate and inspect LLM outputs. So while we might visually look similar, the goals are rather different.

Some CF users, for instance, might not be app builders at all —they just want to audit models.

I think both problems —prompt engineering and LLM app building —are hard, and deserve their own dedicated tools.

back in finance they had a saying: traders know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

thats what its like to blindly compare tools by github numbers

I sort of know where you are coming from, but I think it is hard to discount the fact that 80 new people took the time to create 99 issues in the last 6 weeks in Flowise. No matter how you look at it, this is a strong indicator that this project has strong engagement.

I'm not saying ChainForge is bad, but it will need to go against that kind of community engagement that other projects with a head start have. However, if you believe people contributing code (26) and participating in non code activity (150) in Flowise in the last 6 weeks are just novelty metrics, then yes, comparing numbers is silly.

Yeah, I'd love to see these tools discussed in an upcoming Latent Space episode.

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