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Terminal delusion. Beyond parody.
Without it, what would tend to happen is that many more men would have no wives and families. Which means they have relatively little to lose. Which could tend to make your society unstable, since these men have little reason not to flip alliances, revolt, defect, etc.
Hence laws and consequences for adultery, prohibition of an open market for non-monogamous sex, etc.
The traditions and superstitions are just the implementation of the idea.
Are you fucking kidding? Have you heard of Tinder?
You’re just reinforcing the authors point, which is that we treat this situation noticeably differently, for “reasons”
That would be an open market.
sex work, and women’s empowerment is especially looked down upon. what else is labour but selling your body, yet somehow a woman is a slut to be shamed, and simultaneously the object of sexual desire.
men need these latent structured in place to remain a) powerful and b) keep their sense of worth and identity.
why else is being gay or “throwing like a girl” insults every western boy heard in the 90s?
I can't speak for the commenter you're responding to, but the delusional part of that quote for me was the idea that men opposed sex work because women earn a lot of money.
I'm not conservative, but I was raised in that world, and I can assure you they believe sex is only acceptable within marriage. The vast majority of them would absolutely support a successful businesswoman who earned her money through any moral means.
It had more to do with military differential than with gender, but now they must change the rhetoric with these discussions because wide availability of historical facts and global demographic trends do not benefit this "dominant power structure".
The former slave drivers now want local women who read this trash to hate you for their own crimes so they can skip their bill
I don’t really get the point of your comment except insofar as the standard HN “well actually” putdown of anything resembling feminist rhetoric.
But I still do not know the point of your comment. Is it to suggest that gender relations was not a big factor in the past?
I agree, some strands of feminism can certainly ignore all other dimensions of power, especially when coming from more affluent women, but I disagree that this was the implication of the original comment.
This is my first mention of an original comment, but I was referring to this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37026511
In fact, your comparison about walking and chewing gum vs people's attention makes zero sense. Attention is finite and mutually exclusive, you can only look at one thing at once
No, it's because it's all total mental delusion, and we stand up for the truth above coddling people who should be receiving mental health treatment. You cannot be half a man and half a woman unless you're in the tiny proportion of people with an intersex genetic disorder. It has nothing to do with power structure and nothing to do with religion.
>sex work, and women’s empowerment is especially looked down upon. what else is labour but selling your body, yet somehow a woman is a slut to be shamed, and simultaneously the object of sexual desire.
Prostitution is despised because it is fundamentally exploitative of everyone involved, and bad for the stability of society. The origins of the taboo probably also involve the very high level of venereal disease that accompanied it until very recently. And it's not like that problem has been entirely solved either.
>men need these latent structured in place to remain a) powerful and b) keep their sense of worth and identity.
Delusional.
>why else is being gay or “throwing like a girl” insults every western boy heard in the 90s?
Boys don't want to be seen as girlish for the same reason that girls in the 90s (and the 2000s, and the 2010s, and probably the 2020s too, by the way) don't want to be seen as boyish. When boys go through puberty they are competing with each other to be masculine. When girls go through puberty they are competing with each other to be feminine.
Rather than vagueposting, would you care to leave a comment that doesn't require guessing what you're talking about?