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> so if an invisible being that doesn't interact in our world in any way was able to be quantified in a reproducible experience

No invisible beigns here. Our creators are either extinct (killed by a world-altering catastrophe, perhaps) or are somewhere far away where they can observe their creation.

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So we can't see them?

Can ants "see" us?

But no, not directly. You did give me a good chuckle.

And their creators?

Doesn't matter who created them.

The point is to discover who or what created us.

It does matter though, because whoever created them would be indirectly (or potentially directly) responsible for them creating us.

The reason you're saying it doesn't matter is because it wrecks your denial of reality.

Your denial of reality is the same. Because even evolution had to start from somewhere. We still haven't figured that out. Living organisms didn't just spring into existence out of nowhere.

Evolution can be spontaneously emerge from basic chemistry, no arbitrary convenient cutoffs needed.

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