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Comment by pera | Hacker News Reader

Twitter is basically broken if you don't login, compare this:

In Twitter the latest tweet I see is from July, in Nitter is 22 minutes ago. Additionally in Twitter I get 3 notices/popups that I need to close.

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We should discourage the use of walled-gardens for public discussion anyway. Otherwise nothing changes ever.

Do you mean closed source software? Because that would rule out Hackernews. But I agree on the principle. Maybe it's the type of discussion. I would be happier if this very exciting superconductor story was unfolding somewhere else than Twitter.

A walled garden is when users contribute the data for free, but the data is stuck. No free API access.

Ah, makes sense, thanks for the clarification

“Walled garden” is orthogonal to “open source”

A walled garden is a site that degrades significantly or is unavailable without an account, like Twitter. Anyone can view all of HN modulo dead comments without an account.

You can have a fully open source walled garden.

I appreciate the clarification, thanks. This forum is open to the public at the moment. Though Hackernews could go down or take the conversation offline at any moment (this is an issue of trust more than anything, and I think HN does a good job, certainly more than Twitter)

Hackernews was released as free / open source some years back. There's a community managed fork: https://github.com/arclanguage/anarki/

I was not aware of this, I'm always logged in when I visit twitter

And I'm not.

Links behind logins wall/paywall should be totally forbidden, Twitter, Quora, news websites, etc. I don't even get why they are indexed by Google, as this is cloaking, and forbidden by the ToS (+ gets annoying)

Yeah that would be nice, but pretty hard to enforce.

I just read until I hit the first popup, then I back out.

I'd downvote if I could.

Google gave up on checking or enforcing these things because they'd otherwise lose traffic and ad revenue.

Google has a rule where links from google can't be paywalled. So you can see Quora posts if you enter from a Google link, but not if you go to the URL directly.

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