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Littering the web with its output is against good netizenship. I understand it's inevitable and a matter of time, but it's still aggravating.
I'm largely blind to this. If they're not wordy and overly polite, pasted ChatGPT answers just don't appear on my radar.
Can someone help me out? What points to this answer in particular being from ChatGPT?
- It's a list, it's numbered, it's got pretty consistent markdown formatting. This is especially present with ChatGPT
- Title Casing In Each List Item
- Strong usage of the passive voice
- Strong CYA tone. "might promote", "studies suggest", "has been associated", "can convert", "possibly lowering", "thought to increase"
The general structure is very consistent with GPT too. Once you've seen a lot of sessions it's just... plain obvious. Especially if you step back and think: "Would people actually.. write like this?"
> Would people actually[] write like this?
: some people do. What you call «CYA tone» can overlap with what for others is "precision".
It is the quality of the text, then, that hints further to actual intelligence or "artificial struggle".
And no, that trashy CYA tone is not "precision", if anything, it's vagueness. It's weasel words.
That is not what I said. /That/ «trashy CYA tone is not "precision"». But some use similar expressions to those you noted in order to be factual.
Some texts give a strong impression of fakery; some texts could give a wrong impression upon brutal use of raw Bayesian indicators. Signs orient, do not decide. Hints are not proof.
Some patterns in LLM output can be caricatures of proper efforts (factuality for precision, when relevant, is one of them).
So, people may write similarly to that. (Only, hopefully, well beyond veneer.)
3-10 item list which mentions certain phrases related to the prompt every time ("nitric oxide" here).
Disclaimer about accuracy/expertise.
Problem is all the other sets it belongs to, including the set of all answers containing unverified factual statements, not to mention the set of answers that resemble the output of a large language model.
And if it is a quote from an unreliable source, the more important to note it.
I was under the impression that poor dental hygiene is associated with Alzheimer's disease and dementia?
You can have perfect dental hygiene and never use mouth wash in your life.
Just cause companies like selling you a product, doesn’t mean it’s good for you.
If you need to use mouthwash to prevent bad breath even when you brush your teeth and clean your mouth properly, you need to look into what might be causing that problem in the first place. Mouthwash is like a duct-tape workaround and probably not very healthy for you either.
Btw - interdental toothbrushes. If you’re not using them already, you may want to start. Very helpful. Much better than flossing which has some problems associated with it.
Interdental brushes are IN ADDITION to, not instead of flossing.
Interdental brushes, by definition, cannot get down to the gumline gap between tooth and gum. Something which ONLY correct flossing can do.
Ask your hygienist next time you see them.
Mouthwash is indiscriminate in that it kills of a huge amount of bacteria, but some of those are actually useful.
> Mouthwash is indiscriminate in that it kills of a huge amount of bacteria, but some of those are actually useful.
> It's better to think of your body as a walking city of interlinked organisms of different species than a single organism. They need you as much as you need them. Killing off some of those symbionts can have negative effects for the other party (you).
> Mouthwash is indiscriminate in that it kills of a huge amount of bacteria, but some of those are actually useful.
Not true https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35946140/
Also some of those are quite harmful https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34666923/
But also, at dental cleanings they do things like polish your teeth. Do you also not require that?
My dentist insists that I see the hygienist every 3 months for descaling, cleaning and basic checks.
For the cynics, the cost of this is negligible and I have not needed a filling or any other costly procedure for over a decade.
It seemed as if you were saying that your dentist told you not to step foot in the dentist office at all for 18 months. But you just meant, the literal dentist doesn’t need to see you. Got it. I feel like this isn’t out of the ordinary now.
I always hear every 6 months for a cleaning. This new “3-month” information takes a bit away from your original statement since you are doing a bit more than what you suggested is required for maintaining healthy oral health.
Leading back to my original joke, maybe your dentist insisting that you need to get your teeth cleaned every 3 months is how they make their money lol!
They make their money from implants and advanced treatments costing multiple thousands, not the £100 hygienist fees.
A hygenist, plus a nurse, seeing a maximum of 8 patients a day at £100 a time isn't a business I would want to be investing in.
Re the polishing, I guess not? Since I switched to an electric toothbrush a few years ago my teeth definitely stay smoother longer.
My dental hygienist explicitly advises against mouthwash use.
IIRC the argument given to me was that the bacteria in the mouth eventually build up a resistance to the mouthwash, i.e. similar concept to antibiotic misuse.
Good diet, correct brushing twice a day, and correct flossing once a day is all that is required. Along with an annual visit to the dentist.
He for example features his Daily Dozen: https://nutritionfacts.org/daily-dozen-challenge/
Put in reverse: no meat, eggs, diary.
I might add that there are neuroprotective foods as well, just for reference: https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/15/5/3517
One downside that I don’t see discussed much, as I’ve watched multiple recalls over recent years for supposed contamination of things like tmao and other toxins in either the manufacturing process or packaging process, I wonder how many supplements are contaminated. I have never seen an analysis even from the vendors who do pretty hefty chemical composition analysis.
Why do you think food supplements would be more contaminated than other processed foods? Or even things like toothpaste or shampoo, those are also made from highly processes ingredients.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5753965/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34022259/
https://theconversation.com/natural-supplements-can-be-dange...
Regarding your links, I'm sure I could find similar studies about nearly any kind of food. I have a friend who won't eat peanuts because he's afraid of aflotoxins, which are real, genuinely dangerous, and if you think that peanut products are tested well enough to 100% guarantee the aflotoxins are always below safe levels in all peanut products you'll ever eat... Well, I'll disagree.
https://inspection.canada.ca/food-safety-for-industry/food-c...
So again, why do you think supplements are worse than other food products? I don't agree that your links answer this question.
They do show that there's often contaminants in supplements. They _don't_ show that supplements are unusual in this regard when compared to other food products.
Your third link focuses on heavy metals in supplements. Here's a similar study showing they are also in baby food:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/heavy-metals-in-baby-foo...
So is it just supplements and baby food? Unlikely. More likely it's that supplements and baby food are both things that make people worry about contamination, so they test them more. Meanwhile your ketchup might be loaded with all kinds of contaminants but you'd never think of testing it.
Please take a second to read my comment here, before responding: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36930128
> Most healthy people do not need to supplement with arginine because it is a component of all protein-containing foods[15] and can be synthesized in the body from glutamine via citrulline.
I do not understand how someone can wish to know something, but refuse to expend effort to obtain the information they wish to seek? I hope it would be ok for you to explain this behaviour, please?
In short, you can't test your own blood so you don't know when your levels may be low. If there were no downsides to constantly supplementing then what reasons may there be to not do this?
That is I think the actual question.
> There's a large amount of precedence, that's why. Rather than asking the room, one would think the first step would be to obtain information and inform yourself.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36930036
I don't know why this person feels the need to roam around the conversation policing how people are engaging in it. It's incredibly obnoxious. Especially frustrating given that they do seem to have some information to share, which they could do and just omit the completely gratuitous and unwarranted hostility.
For what it is worth, my context is that I have seen the behavior of asking the room, or even just throwing out conjecture to the room, without properly doing research beforehand, to be a common flaw within computer scientists and within "tech workers" as a demographic. I had to put up for a whole year with one person making up what was complete and absolute nonsense through first principle reasoning, rather than just reading a 101 Sociology book, which would have answered all his questions effectively and with some basis in research. It is also something I see commonly within the Hacker News comments -- someone will ask a generic question to people in Hacker News, rather than doing even a cursory form of searching first. I do not understand the idea implied through this behaviour, that a random tech worker will know more than people whose job is to study the questions that are being asked, and so I resolved to ask this person, taking care to be polite, why they choose to engage in this behaviour.
If what you consider “polite”, several people call out as aggressive, then maybe you should re-evaluate your definition of the word.
Your comment does not read polite. At best, passive aggressive.
Asking questions fosters discussion. For a site centered around discussion, that seems warranted. Telling people to just look it up is pretty much the antithesis of discussion.
On the contrary, the quality of discussion would be much higher if people took one entire minute beforehand to research something. It is shameful and disappointing that the techbros here cannot be bothered to do this, and prefer to live in ignorance.
While you are right there may be individual variation, the rule of medical advice is that we cannot assume what we do not know, and preventative ingesting of a substance that is not too well understood may have unintended side-effects. Especially in the case of molecules that have been synthesized.
As my other comment within this thread states, there is a high precedence for contamination of health supplements as a whole, so in this instance preventative dosing would seem to put someone at more risk than e.g. just eating more protein.
In addition, the supplements may contain vastly higher quantities than are safe to absorb. For example, there was a recent pubmed paper describing an incident where +500mg doses of Vitamin C (which is 1/6th of the EFSA and NIH's estimates of "safe upper limit") taken daily over a long time caused kidney stone formation. This required expensive surgery to correct.
For what it is worth, as someone with a damaged and resectioned gastrointestinal tract -- the dieticians I work with prefer to solve deficiencies with eating foods that contain the given micronutrients rather than supplementing with them. One doctor told me I had a copper deficiency, he told me that taking copper supplements tends to cause gastrointestinal distress and would have been too high a correctional dose, and so his solution was to increase my consumption of dust (which is how we naturally get copper) through obeying the five second rule. This wasn't especially out of the norm. Selenium deficiencies were solved by eating tinned tuna, likewise vitamin B12 deficiencies were solved by ingesting liver occasionally, etc.
If you suspect that you are deficient in a given micronutrient, it is always better to explore that possibility with your doctor than to take high quantities of unreliably tested substances.
0. Stop mouth breathing and do nasal breathing whenever possible because only the latter produces nitric oxide, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_functions_of_nitr...
I don't think maximizing dietary nitrate is a good idea, since the nitrite that's an intermediate in this pathway is definitely carcinogenic (forming nitrosamines).
The only way I enjoy kale is having it as garnish that gets tossed away.
my better half loves steamed kale. no amount of salts and seasonings has changed my mind. cheese and salt/pepper took me from a broccoli hater into a broccoli lover lol.
but I digress.
Chop it small (the stems really small) add sliced garlic, sliced hot pepper, some olive oil and a cup of water then cook it for 3-4 minutes only. Drink the water and (if you must) serve with lots of cheese and bacon. (add the cheese immediately or it wont melt)
Like with broth, the first day it tastes good. If you prepare it again within the next 2 days the body screams for more. Specially the water is funny, it feels as if some magic potion.
Reminds me that the healthiest activity during the pandemic was being at the beach and losing weight. Unfortunately that wasn’t stressed enough.
I've had negative effects from strong antioxidant supplements before. I think there could be a lot of reasons why.
By what measure?
https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/22/2/323
Nitric Oxide dilates the nasal passages and is also a vasodilator as well. A simple n=1 test is to do nasal humming and test blood pressure before and after. I can typically get a (temporary) 10 point drop.
Nitric Oxide is also anti-bacterial and humming may help clear sinus infections.
One also wonders how humanity can adapt to dramatically extended lifetimes without obliterating our planet.
No kidding. (Sorry, but I work with GPT more than enough every day to recognize its style)
Not to diminish the value of the comment itself, but please don't mislead people.