Kind of how other first world countries (even nominally poorer ones) only have a tiny fraction of the problems with mentally-ill homelessness, crime, shootings, and so on.
So this argument kind of backfires...
All I’m saying is, there will always be people that need to be inside jail rather than outside jail. The parent asked for a citation. I said Hitler. Because it would have been better if he was inside jail and not running it.
Another one: Charles Manson. He was jailed. I don’t think there is any society where he could have lived and not committed atrocities. Unless you lived in a society that legalised such atrocities but I’m not interested in living somewhere like that.
(Or taken a few additional centuries to get there)