Would be very interesting to see more attempts at using it in these places, especially since it would be hard to make the land worse.
Would be very interesting to see more attempts at using it in these places, especially since it would be hard to make the land worse.
https://plantbasednews.org/news/environment/george-monbiot-r...
Monbiot said that there was no empirical evidence that holistic management could mitigate the climate crisis. He went on to say that there is also no evidence it can offset the emissions it produces itself. On the contrary, he said that there’s “loads of contradictory evidence showing that grazing livestock systems are a major net loss of carbon into the atmosphere.” He highlighted that there had been several papers published recently that found removing animals from land allows more carbon to be sequestered. “Far from livestock grazing helping to mitigate climate breakdown, it actually accelerates climate breakdown,” he said.
He pointed out that Savory’s claims had been debunked repeatedly, and added that there are “several words” that can be used to describe a claim for which there is no evidence or that has already been debunked. “One of them is pseudoscience,” he said. “One of them is mumbo jumbo… But perhaps the most appropriate one in this case is bullsh*t.”
The debate: https://www.youtube.com/embed/rhwEaCmQ2XE
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338777621_A_half_ce...
"Monbiot’s approach falls squarely into the “narrow industrial paradigm” Dr. Gosnell warns about. In his opening remarks, Monbiot insisted that carbon sequestration is simply not adequate, and to address climate change livestock advocates must demonstrate permanent carbon capture in the soil. This demand, however, is the perfect example of applying reductionist thinking to complex living systems."
https://savory.global/statement-on-the-allan-savory-george-m...
And asking for evidence is reductionist?
> Claims that Savory’s approach has been discredited in the academic literature are based solely on two papers, one of which Monbiot cites. Both have been countered in academic and professional literature by papers which find that Savory’s method meets the claimed ecological, economic, and quality of life enhancing goals. It improves grass density, soil moisture, soil bulk density, standing crop biomass, and soil organic matter, an indicator of increases in soil carbon.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2014/aug/19...
My first question would be, "How many cattle does George Monbiot run"?
I don't know anything about Allan Savory but I think it's likely he would know more about what's happening on his land than not, eh?
If you want to make policies, we need scientific facts, experiments and measurements, not gut feelings.
Otherwise you might end up killing tens of thousands of elephants and making things worse for decades (sorry, couldn't resist).
George Monbiot is a bit harsh but it's understandable, I'd be a bit mad myself in his shoes.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019005281...
(Majority of farmers in the study are holistic practitioners)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09593...