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Quest Pro supposedly being a pro device cannot replace my desktop screens. Resolution is just not there. With Apple Vision seems to be actually capable of doing this. I am looking forward to ditching my screens.

My napkin math and some googling (with the information I could find at the time of release, so probably inaccurate in multiple ways):

Quest 2= ~18PPD

Quest pro = ~20PPD

Quest 3 = ~25PPD

Apple Vision = ~36PPD

Real life vision 60-120PPD

1920x1080 27" screen from a "normal" distance is roughly 36PPD.

So I think Apple vision will feel like previous generation of screens (pre "retina"), and it makes sense why they pushed it so far. I wouldn't want to look at anything with worse quality (720p for example). And this is just talking about "pro" developers that use multiple screens.

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Well sure. It's 10x the price of a Quest 2 and has a good spec bump for it, but is that a conceptual leap? It feels like it's just focusing on the high end of the market. Is it even a moat? Won't Meta have a similar device in a few years?

What Apple gets right are all the tiny details that make it feel like an AR pass-through device. Aside from the impressive spec differences that are required for usability, these are the things they focused on that really matter to me from a user perspective:

1. No noticeable lag due to very high refresh rate

2. The viewpoint and perspective of the cameras mimics your actual view almost exactly

3. AR-first, and user-friendly VR shows other people when they approach you

4. Quick, accurate eye tracking and comfortable gesture controls

Also hiding the cord for like 99% of the marketing

1, 2, and 4 are basically speculation at this point, no?

We don't have hard numbers for them, but we do have everyone who tried the demo units being basically unanimous on those points, including people already familiar with existing VR devices.

>What Apple gets right

they haven't released anything yet

But in a few years Apple will have new devices too. They’ll be cheaper for the “low end” due to better economies of scale and not using brand new cutting edge tech like the screens are today. The high end will be even better.

And they’ll have a few years more experience and refinement.

By then Meta’s similar device may not be enough, or even if the hardware is up there the lack of experience on high-end AR may end up showing.

This is speculation, Apple doesn’t generally produce cheaper-for-the-low-end, they wait for inflation and expectations to climb and make their high-end products “normal”.

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