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The thing that I really like in Chrome (which I use for work) is Tab Groups. There is nothing like it for Firefox. Even the "Simple Tab Groups" extension, which is well liked, cannot do the simple "grouping" of tabs in a larger window - it simply hides all the tabs that are not in current use (which defeats the purpose of tab groups, I can just use windows for that). Another thing that Chrome has is the ability to name individual windows for easy Alt-Tabbing. Shame that Firefox doesn't have these things (that I know of).

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Honestly you are the first person I’ve ever heard that prefers chromes tab system. Check out tree style tabs it’ll change your life. I hate chrome now solely due to it

I recently started using Sidebery over TST and found it much more customizable for how I use tabs. It's worth taking a look at if you haven't already.

I installed it to see. I don't want something on the "side" - I want the tab organization to be on the top where the tabs ordinarily live anyway. That's what the Chrome tab groups does well. I can just visually see which tabs are grouped together, and collapse all of them.

Is there any kind of migration process from TST if I move to Sidebery? I don't want to lose my current tree structures in TST.

I haven't used chrome tab system, but Safari's tab groups are nice. Point being, most other browser, including esoteric ones like Vivaldi, have a way to organize tabs beyond simple order and moving them to other windows. If you are in a corporate environment, it is unlikely a user can install extensions like sideberry.

Tab groups in Chrome are a relatively new feature (and might still be behind an experimental feature flag, or at least the ability to save tab groups might be).

They're a game changer; so much better than using a third party extension IMO.

>Tab groups in Chrome are a relatively new feature

I'm gonna die on this hill but I'd like to add that Opera had tab groups natively without extensions since 2010 [1]. Damn I feel old now.

Also, UX of tab groups in old-Opera was way nicer than current-Chrome since you could just drag and drop tabs on top of another and it would automatically create groups.

[1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2512081/opera-11-ships...

Tab groups are old. Maybe saving them not?

This! But also check out sidebery, in my opinion is much better in every way to tree style

Except in style.. it's on the ugly side.

Firefox had them. In fact, it had them since version 4 [1]. Then Firefox got rid of them again [2]. For no clear reason. And then Chrome copied the idea. And that's just a messed up timeline of events.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-4-beta-updated-w...

[2] https://venturebeat.com/mobile/mozilla-is-removing-tab-group...

It still lives on as an extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/panorama-view...

But it should never have needed to be one. Every extension is an increase in security exploit surface. They removed it because "it wasn't popular enough", rather than "it had problems that don't have the capacity to fix" in a period where they had no idea what to do with FF in order to not bleed money all over the floor. Removing it was a short sighted decision that did nothing to push the needle up.

Use Sidebery in Firefox for vertical tabs and it has not only better grouping but also entire "tab spaces" (workspaces) which you can switch between as well, if wanted.

How does Sidebery compare to Tree Style Tab?

I've never used the latter, but they certainly look very similar! I may have to give it a shot actually.

I've been trying Sidebery since about 2 minutes after I made my last comment, and I think I like Sidebery more--and I've been using Tree Style Tab for _years_

Sidebery responds noticeably faster, and the panels are a great feature.

In Tree Style Tab you can create a tab group (which is basically a custom tab whose title you can rename, e.g. "Docs"), then move all tabs you want to group as one "inside" it. That makes all the tabs the children of the tab group. Now you have the best of both worlds: tab groups and tree-based tab structures.

I am a longtime and proud Firefox user, but this feature of Chrome is the one thing I want. When I see colleagues using it, it just looks like the right way to tackle that need.

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