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Resizing looks very sluggish

I suspect they use Gnome Shell.. what a mistake if they do..

According to text, that was showing keyboard controlled resizing, so the discrete jumps are probably input quanta, not performance jankiness.

The regular popos shell is built on top of gnome, but I believe COSMIC is a brand new DE built with rust/js.

> https://hyprland.org/ is where it's at

also, thanks for sharing this.

do you know what js engine do they use?

We do not use JavaScript. It is Rust from top to bottom. The native applets are written with iced/libcosmic, and the same is true of the shell components in the compositor.

This looks super smooth but I wish there were a floating-first version. All of the notable standalone Wayland WMs I know about are tiling-first which doesn't work well for me at all.

Perhaps that's because the people driven by tiling window management are evangelical enough about it that they'll build entire new software stacks to support it, and the people who want floating windows are just... sufficiently satisfied by KDE/GNOME.

All I know is that I don't like the trend to moving controls into the title bar, making everything like Microsoft Office where there's so much crud in there you have to play Minesweeper to find a few pixels you can click on if you want to actually drag the window and not do anything else.

I want something that looks more like FVWM or even IceWM, a perpetual late-1990s vibe.

GNOME apps support window drag and drop on the entire title bar, even if buttons are beneath the cursor.

And the wayland compositor hyprland does support floating windows like any other compositor. Though I agree that if your comfortable with no/simple tiling, using Gnome/KDE/other DE's is likely your best bet.

I’m not really satisfied by GNOME, KDE, etc but the prospect of rolling my own is daunting to say the least. As a dev whose entire hobby and career work has consisted entirely of typical user-facing native desktop and mobile apps, the bits one need to work with to write a WM (let alone a DE) may as well be alien runes, and looking at the code for existing Wayland WMs doesn’t really help a whole lot.

Windows are floating by default. Implementing floating window management is the first step towards tiling.

> I suspect they use Gnome Shell.. what a mistake if they do..

I don't understand this remark. They're building a DE from the ground up, why would you think they're using Gnome Shell?

i love hyprlands fork of xdg-desktop-portal[1] which fixes a bunch of things like obs window capture by using custom wayland protocol extensions[2]

[1]https://github.com/hyprwm/xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland

[2]https://github.com/hyprwm/hyprland-protocols

That isn't a fork of xdg-desktop-portal.

It looks sluggish because it's a GIF. cosmic-comp is written from scratch in Rust.

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