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Yeah but you can’t send him to jail he’s basically a foreign diplomat

> basically

If he doesn't actually have diplomatic papers, then he's fair game. And if he does, he can still be kicked out of the country at the very least.

You can also arrest a diplomat but either way you cause an international crisis

Foreign CEOs are not diplomats. They can be jailed just like anyone else, assuming they enter your sovereign territory.

When Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada, it caused a diplomatic crisis. While you're right de jure, the situation is quite different de facto.

Why would we send him to jail anyways? Google, Facebook, and thousands of other companies are doing the exact same thing right now. Jesse some guy tried to overthrow the US government and he isn't in jail. Once you get enough $ meaningful punishment is mostly out of the question here...

I don’t think Facebook or google has lied to the US government about sending US citizen data to China.

>Jesse some guy tried to overthrow the US government and he isn't in jail. Once you get enough $ meaningful punishment is mostly out of the question here...

If you're talking about Trump, he's possibly the worst example you could pick for your case, as his treatment has nothing to do with his wealth and everything to do with the fact that he is the previous President...

I respect your opinion. But personally feel that his wealth and varied enterprises are exactly how he became president in the first place. The inordinate amount of lies, and propaganda that composed his campaign were treated as valid points of view despite being objectively wrong because there is a culture of wealth worshipping in the US. "If I give the rich guy my vote he will make me prosperous too!" Or "he is wealthy because God has blessed him"(a surprisingly common well documented evangelical belief).

But if ya disagree with that, that's fine. Can take a quick Google search and find hundreds of instances were wealthy people committed serious crimes and received no substantial punishment for doing so compared to their less influential counterparts. I could list some, but I trust you can do that for yourself.

Yeah, that guy is currently sitting pretty in the white house. The machine he works for rigged the election, on multiple levels, and started a proxy war over what appears to a place of great interest of corrupt politicians. Got to protect The Big Guy's 10% cut.

Usually I can understand the basis or motivation behind political gripes even if I don't agree with them or the values that motivate the claim. But in the case of Biden starting a proxy war, you're totally fucking nuts. That war started in 2014, two presidencies before Biden. Not to mention Biden oversaw the War with Afghanistan actually end while the previous two presidents blew hot air about ending it but never actually had the balls to commit.

Bush the Younger: Started two wars, threatened at least two more, and ended none.

Obama: Ended one of those wars and continued the other. Had a third start under his watch.

Trump: Didn't start any wars, and didn't end any either.

Biden: Ended the other Bush war, and saw that third war continue.

Sure, it started under Obama. I'll agree to that. But a full scale invasion of Ukraine only started in 2022, and there was basically nothing going on while Trump was president.

And the Afghanistan pull out is one of the most embarrassing and sad things I have seen for my county. It was a travesty, and almost anyone with a brain could've handled it better.

It was probably also another item on the list of green lights to Putin that Biden couldn't stop or defend against a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

> Yeah, that guy is currently sitting pretty in the white house.

> and started a proxy war over what appears to a place of great interest of corrupt politicians

Putin does not sit in the White House in Moscow, that's where Russia's Prime Minister sits :)

Who's the prison guard that opened the cell for him to get out?

Who's the prison guard whose watching from a sniper tower while the prisoner rampages?

Both of those are the American President. The war in Ukraine was fully preventable, and could probably even be stopped immediately, if the President wanted to do so.

But that would require a living person in the Office, and the military-industrial complex not desiring another 20 year proxy war.

Write in full sentences and paragraphs explaining your point, not some aloof metaphorical rhetorical questions leading into platitudes.

I don't understand what you are saying, there's no explanation of how the war was fully preventable, just a statement as if that was a shared fact between you and me (it isn't). No explanation of how to stop this war without Russia annexing a huge chunk of another sovereign country. No explanation on how a Russian invasion is actually a proxy war created by whatever you are saying.

I feel dumber by reading this...

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