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it would force companies to pay workers for any time logged into the app, regardless of whether they were delivering or not

Heh. Do these companies interview their gig workers? Could I collect some passive cash like this?

What a soul sucking job interview that would actually be:

What makes you a great delivery bicycle person and where do you see yourself in 5 years?

So in other words, these companies would mandate that you make a minimum of 17 bucks worth of deliveries or get fired, no?

The city is just being stupid on this one.

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If you were working in a warehouse and they had no packages for you to send out, they just don't pay you for that time?

Yeah but you can’t leave the warehouse without being fired.

Gig workers can choose to only work when it’s peak hours then stay home.

That said, no one is forcing DoorDash to allow people to log in.

I think they should have to pay for any part of an hour in which they allow a worker to login. And additionally if they refuse a login, they must continue refusing it for a minimum of 1 hour.

This way they will be incentivized to create a core of real employees for the off hours work, and only use gig workers for peak times.

I mostly see them take the train in to the city with their ebike to deliver. Between deliveries they aren’t able to just sit at home for 10 minutes.

I see them sitting in groups at cafes and in parks all the time.

If you were sat at home playing video games but could conceivably go to the warehouse if they called but they didn't call, you would not be paid for your time playing video games.

Presume this is the sticking point for the companies as well since now they will have to actually manage their drivers to actually ensure they are working and not just gaming it. So it will end up being the additional cost from the minimum wage plus everyone else required to police it.

> The city is just being stupid on this one.

Why? Don't hire delivery drivers of you don't need them.

These companies don’t provide a service. They provide a marketplace and collect fees. It’s no different than a brokerage.

Not really. Uber etc decide the price, not the driver, or the restaurant or food buyer for that matter.

It is not a marketplace from the drivers perspective.

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