North Korea exists because 5 years after the US liberated China from Japanese oppression, the communist Chinese declared war against the US lead UN forces in South Korea.
Fairly wild, in retrospect.
Fairly wild, in retrospect.
See:
PRC should give the escapees the right to travel, instead of deporting.
I expect a lot of wumaos to resort to whataboutisms completely unrelated to the right-to-travel / right-to-asylum / right-to-immigration / etc
China has a vested interest in NK remaining a viable country; again, seems unsurprising that they'd do this.
"Should" is aspirational. I agree with you in what China should be doing, but of course they won't.
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> Estimates of the death toll vary. Historians and experts on the Korean War estimate that the full total ranges from at least 60,000–110,000 (Kim Dong-choon, who stated that this was likely a very conservative estimate) to 200,000 (Park Myung-lim).
> The massacre was committed by the government forces of president Syngman Rhee and falsely blamed on the communists led by North Korean leader Kim Il Sung. The South Korean government made efforts to conceal the massacre for four decades. Survivors were forbidden by the government from revealing it, under threat of being treated as communist sympathizers; public revelation carried with it the threat of torture and death.
Moreover, the Chinese did not enter the war until UN forces had driven all the way to the Manchurian border, along with regular "accidental" cross-border air attacks. MacArthur, Kai-shek, and Rhee all fully desired war with China and were hoping to escalate the conflict.
I've posted these quotes before, copied below:
[2]
> In the fall of 1946, the US military authorized elections to an interim legislature for southern Korea, but the results were clearly fraudulent. Even General Hodge privately wrote that right-wing "strong-arm" methods had been used to control the vote. The winners were almost all rightists, including Rhee supporters, even though a survey by the American military government that summer had found that 70 percent of 8,453 southern Koreans polled said they supported socialism, 7 percent communism, and only 14 percent capitalism. [...]
> Chung Koo-Hun, the observant young student of the late 1940s, said of the villagers' attitude: "The Americans simply re-employed the pro-Japanese Koreans whom the people hated." [...]
> Seventy of the 115 top Korean officials in the Seoul administration in 1947 had held office during the Japanese occupation.
> In the southern city of Taegu, people verged on starvation. When 10,000 demonstrators rallied on October 1, 1946, police opened fire, killing many. Vengeful crowds then seized and killed policeman, and the US military declared martial law. The violence spread across the provinces, peasants murdering government officials, landlords, and especially police, detested as holdovers from Japanese days. American troops joined the police in suppressing the uprisings. Together they killed uncounted hundreds of Koreans.
> American anthropologist Cornelius Osgood, spending much of 1947 in a village west of Seoul, watched as police carried young men off to jail by the truckload. A "mantle of fear" had fallen over once peaceful valleys, he wrote. The word "communist," he said, "seemed to mean 'just any young man of a village.'" On August 7, 1947, the US military government outlawed the southern communists, the Korean Worker's Party. Denied a peaceful political route, more and more leftist militants chose an armed struggle for power.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre
[2] - quotes from The Bridge at No Gun Ri
[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_uprising
[4] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_Uprising (note that this was in 1980, under a different dictator that the US also backed)
South Korea is a vastly richer, freer and more prosperous country than both North Korea (and China for that matter).
Now, there is currently a genocide going on in one of the discussed countries so if you were going to draw a hitler comparison I think it should be there.
Explain why the mass killings I mentioned do not qualify.
"Rudolph Rummel estimated that the North Korean Army executed at least 500,000 civilians during the Korean War with many dying in North Korea's drive to conscript South Koreans to their war effort. Throughout the conflict, North Korean and Chinese forces routinely mistreated U.S. and UN prisoners of war. Mass starvation and diseases swept through the Chinese-run POW camps during the winter of 1950–51. About 43 percent of all U.S. POWs died during this period. In violation of the Geneva Conventions which explicitly stated that captor states must repatriate prisoners of war to their homeland as quickly as possible, North Korea detained South Korean POWs for decades after the ceasefire. Over 88,000 South Korean soldiers were missing and the Communists' themselves had claimed they had captured 70,000 South Koreans."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_crimes#North_Korea...
The korean war was a shitshow on both the south and north korean sides but the south koreans were still better and the US was still on the right side.