So? I posted that from a brand new MacBook Pro. Doesn't mean I've lost my ability to reason objectively or that I need to trash the opinion (passive-aggressively, of course!) of those who like Microsoft or Lenovo or whatever. OP made a valid point about Windows 8 and (you're right, what do I expect; it's Hacker News) it got downvoted for that simple reason. I think it got downvoted because it was a cogent point. Bullshit.