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Garbage "analysis".

Heavy users I follow tweet more than 3 times a day.

> The problem wasn't a biased liberal algorithm, it was that their tweets are no good.

No, it was a biased algo that's still being removed (as recently as 2-3 weeks ago they discovered another throttle which was impacting many users, including Elon).

The main problem is that all centralized platforms have to deal with government-mandated censorship in large markets such as the EU, which kills content and engagement and also negatively impacts paying users (because despite the payment, their content still gets shadow-banned). That's not Twitter's fault, but they're relatively more impacted than social networks that focus on art and have no political content.

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I'm interested to know what your examples of content would be that is (a) good and (b) banned by "government-mandated censorship in large markets such as the EU".

> relatively more impacted than social networks that focus on art and have no political content

Funnily enough a lot of artists also want uncensored platforms so they can post NSFW art, but this is completely orthogonal to the political questions.

> uncensored platforms so they can post NSFW art, but this is completely orthogonal to the political questions.

Its not orthogonal, the center of american politics is neo-puritanism. This is specifically the attitude of american elites, and they force it on the rest of the world. They deny access to banking and payment to anyone who does not comply.

> I'm interested to know what your examples of content would be that is (a) good and (b) banned by "government-mandated censorship in large markets such as the EU".

War videos and pirated books.

> they're relatively more impacted than social networks that focus on art and have no political content.

Most art is political, you probably just can't take a hint.

That's not really the art in question though.

There's a lot of 'art' on twitter which is, for a lack of a better term, porn.

This is a pretty good example of what is called kettle logic:

1. The analysis is wrong

2. The analysis is correct, but it is the algorithms fault.

3. The analysis is correct, but actually its really state censorship that is culprit here!

> government-mandated censorship in large markets such as the EU

Twitter censors nudity and pornography, and import American neo-puritanism to the rest of the world. No-one in EU mandates this.

But american brain is incapable of putting two and two together, they have it wired into their brain that opression cannot be private, only government.

If modern right-wingers existed in 1500, they would be defending the rirht of a feudal lord to sleep with your wife because he isnt a government and your signed up for it when you were born as a peasant.

Pretty much what really happened.

I think the strong response is to your opening statement. Cory is a thoughtful writer. The analysis may be inaccurate in your opinion, but that doesn't make it garbage.

I happen to agree with your actual take: biased unfair algos are the result of platforms being coerced (internally and/or externally) to ultimately serve some socio-political agenda, and thus their content enshittifies. No blue checkmarks needed.

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