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The article says the law mandates each station must still staff half its pumps.

So obviously this means full service isn’t going away (it’s still legally required), but if it’s very popular, there might be a line for the full service pumps. Personally, I doubt it.

Not sure how the writer drew such a clearly wrong conclusion.

Edit: text from the bill

> SECTION 2. (1) A filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids are dispensed at retail may not designate more than the same number of fuel dispensing devices for self-service use by customers as are designated for attended service by an owner, operator or employee of the dispensary of Class 1 flammable liquids.

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2023R1/Downloads/Meas...

> A filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids are dispensed at retail

So many words to say "gas stations".

> may not designate more than the same number of fuel dispensing devices for self-service use by customers as are designated for attended service by an owner, operator or employee of the dispensary of Class 1 flammable liquids.

So many words to say "may not have more self-service pumps than full-service pumps".

Dammit, I hate legalese. Unfortunately, it's a requirement because some lawyer would nitpick what a "gas station" is, or what defines a "full-service" pump.

Even the term "fuel dispensing device" is ridiculous, but I know if the law said "pump", then a lawyer would argue that "pump" could refer to the actual device that pumps the fuel from the underground tank, and that one pump could go to multiple dispensers, so a g̶a̶s̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids are dispensed at retail could have two pumps, but one goes to 8 full-service dispensers, and the other goes to only 4 self-service dispensers, and not be in violation of the law because they have an equal number of pumps.

If they said "pump", you know the gas stations would immediately find a way to put tanks above the level of the cars so that they could operate on gravity instead.

or pressurize the tanks using air cylinders that they later pump back up offsite.

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