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> Standards-based is really the only thing that challenges react these days

I feel like Vue would be a better fit for this role, especially since now they have a Composition API that's as pleasant to use as React, except that they do lifecycle hooks better than React (no messing about with dependency arrays): https://vuejs.org/guide/extras/composition-api-faq.html

There's also Pinia which is a lot simpler than trying to use Redux, it's closer to MobX: https://pinia.vuejs.org/

There are also plenty of component libraries, like PrimeVue: https://primevue.org/

Seriously, the only actual complaint I have about Vue is that the 2 to 3 migration wasn't all that pleasant (albeit not as painful as what Python dealt with hah).

Oh and for more complex use cases (like what Next provides), there is Nuxt: https://nuxt.com/

Vue 3 is seriously an amazing piece of tech. Nuxt is going after the same DX of Next but without all of the big company IPO baggage behind it.

Vue also takes a lot of inspiration from compiler first frameworks and will be implementing an optional API to bring those optimizations to core in a coming point release.

I agree with you that hooks are a great feature that many React devs would probably enjoy using.

The only downside to Vue atm is the lacking comprehensive community support for libraries like `react-aria` and `framermotion`. I think the community is working on ports, but we all know that sometimes ports make compromises that might miss the nuance of the primary library author thinking about those problems directly in relation to the target client.

I like Vue as much as the next guy, but comparing Nuxt to Next doesn't really do Next justice. Nuxt is pretty much a glorified blog engine, a conceptually broken tech demo. Its performance is abysmal, the developer experience frustrating, and many things that seem convenient when you read the docs turn out to be a hassle in production.

Next is so much more refined compared to that.

This description of Nuxt 3 couldn't be further from reality. Performance is on par with anything else I've tried (SvelteKit, Remix, Next) and the DX (module ecosystem, layers, auto imports, vite, etc ) are actually what's made it my default.

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