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Did he try Sailfish Os ?

Honestly, it's the only Alternative Non-android based phone OS that works. I have been using it for the last 2 years and it works great. The android support works well enough that YouTube, my bank, waze work nicely.

Sailfish has a ton of great apps, the community is very active. Can't find a native app, android support is here.

And yes, it's not "truly" open source, but it's way more than android. Yes, android has an Opensource license, but good luck doing something that google don't want.

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> And yes, it's not "truly" open source, but it's way more than android. Yes, android has an Opensource license, but good luck doing something that google don't want.

How is it "way more" than Android? Doesn't Google's team contribute the most to Android development? Sailfish contains closed source components, so I don't understand how it's inaccurate to say Android is entirely open source, and Sailfish OS is almost entirely open source.

Since when does open source imply that you can submit anything you want and expect it to get merged?

I don't think Drew wanted "anything but Android", it sounds like he wanted Linux, so he could do the same Linux stuff on his phone that he does on other devices.

Unless I'm missing something, LineageOS and other AOSP-based projects are more open source than Sailfish, can obviously run Android apps better than Sailfish, and can probably do better at pretending to be Linux too (through Termux and its package manager).

Sailfish is Linux, native root access.

It uses all the usual Linux build blocks (rpm,wayland,qt,systemd,pulseaudio ...)

Sailfish is a Linux distribution with a proprietary DE (built in qml, so modification are easy)

Ooh, very interesting. From the wikipedia page I thought it only had a Linux kernel, like Android. I'll keep it on my radar.

Doesn't look like he tried Plasma Mobile either

I don't blame him; the stability of that is markedly worse.

How is power consumption on Sailfish?

On my Sony Xperia 10 II which has a 3600 mAh battery I have a full day of battery. My phone is 2 years old. I don't use a lot my phone, example today at 8h30 I had 100% and a 0h00 I have 58%. i did like 30 minutes of social media and 20 minutes of Google Maps + 1 phone call + email sync every 10 minutes with 3 mail box + proton mail in the back ground.

A good 4 hours on YouTube(android app) is easily doable.

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