Aside: I never could get into it. It feels too much like 'punching down' to me. Not in the real sense, but the hosts always come off as 'better' and so when they make fun, it's just not a good vibe. The recordings also come off to me as unprofessional. Things like googling during the taping, not being well briefed on the material, being salty that they have to cut to ads (and there seem to be a lot of ads!), and just bad audio quality. I've really tried, but the podcast somehow rubs me the wrong way. What am I missing?