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Removing a useless UI element is a positive regardless of real estate constraints (and I wish it didn't flash over mouse scroll either as it usually does)

Though all of that should be properly configurable (which it isn't) so that other users liking other styles don't suffer

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completely agree. the scrollbar has persisted for 40 years not because its useful, but because we just haven't figured out how to remove it yet.

thanks for your helpful comment.

QWERTY has persisted for X years because it's good. Thanks for your stellar logic

There's a difference between good and good enough. Something doesn't need to be perfect to be useful or popular, only good enough.

No, something doesn't need to be good to be useful or popular or persist, that presupposes a degree of pervasive thoughtfulness and rationality that simply do not exist in reality.

That's why you can't argue that a useless element (I'm using more convenient alternatives to scroll) is useful just because it's persisted for decades

but I CAN argue its useful because I USE IT every day and can attest to its usefulness, even in the face of other options such as scroll wheel.

so you are free to argue that its not useful TO YOU, but you should qualify that, as you dont speak for everyone, or even a majority of users.

How does qualifying help if you ignore it anyway like you ignored my 2nd sentence in the original comment?

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