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> In many ways, the AVP can be seen as the “Meta Quest Pro done much better.” If you are doing more of a “flagship/Pro product,” it better be a flagship.

Ok. I'm fine with being told "you aren't the target audience" but... name 5 things I would do with it if I bought one.

Why would I put it on my face/what would I gain from it?

Gaming? Productivity? What can it do that a screen + monitor + mouse + keyboard / iPad / iPhone can not?

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What could the original iPad do that an iPhone couldn't? Basically zero, other than have a larger screen. Different screen size ends up making a significant difference in how you use a product.

Vision Pro presents theoretically unlimited size and number of screens to do categorically the same kind of things you'd do on an iPad/iPhone/Mac. As someone who likes to work with multiple monitors, at the least I see this enabling me to take my work on the go (coffee shop, library, plane) without significantly compromising my screen real estate.

So that iPad made reading or watching videos better, when you don't wanna use a laptop/pc/tv.

Give me one thing that those goggles let me do or do better right now.

Arguably, the same. You can watch videos in what amounts to a very large screen, with ambiance added to the backdrop, anywhere. Watching videos on a plane or train will get a massive boost.

Given that an iPad Pro with max specs is about 2/3 of the announced price of the goggles, I think the goggles are in fact at an advantage.

Plane and train rides. That's it. Not even public transport, for several reasons.

Not sure what your reasons are, but on a 30min-1h trip on the London Tube, I can see the appeal and not many reasons to not use it. Keep the "real world" somewhat visible for awareness and enjoy. Not much different from taking my laptop out and coding on it.

Well, the trivial answer given your premise that the iPad's existence is justified because some people sometimes might prefer it over other screens is that some people might similarly sometimes prefer the Vision [Pro].

I think it's a lot more compelling than that, personally, but you didn't set the bar very high.

I only need to name 1 for myself: i travel a lot and work from a laptop often. AVP feels like an obvious choice for development if it delivers on the vision (heh). Working without a dedicated desk space, laptop stand, separate monitor, etc, laptop work just pales in productivity and comfort to my multi-monitor desk setup at home.

A wearable that acts as if i have floating monitors anywhere sounds like a massive win, in a device that appears to be far more portable than actually bringing the aforementioned accoutrements with me everywhere i go.

Funnily enough, if it works for this use case well -

From the perspective of “it can give you an experience as if you have multiple large displays” and costs the same as ~2 Apple displays, plus comes with compute built in.. it’s actually a steal.

> AVP feels like an obvious choice for development if it delivers on the vision (heh).

I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing this in public around strangers whatsoever.

Is the hesitance for social norm/style reasons?

Similarly, i wouldn't wear it at a coffee shop. But i could see it coming into style at co-working spaces. It feels like a no brainer in hotel rooms and airbnb's.

3,500 is withing striking distance of - very nice computer + very nice monitor + very nice camera.

The question in my mind is if I want the thing strapped to my face for an 8 hour work day. If so then (while still too expensive for my blood) it's not crazy; it just needs a couple of years in the oven, if not then it's not a couple of years it's a decade or more.

The ability to position and manipulate virtual objects "in" the physical world. It's also supposed to be capable of 3d video playback and capture.

2d screens can't really do 3d, and definitely can't put things in the room around you.

People have already dreamed up all sorts of game ideas for passthrough AR, as well as CAD and 3d design (think autocad, blender etc.).

If you're using it as a stand in for a 2d display it may not be worth it -- it's just bigger in your field vision.

It can have a slightly larger effective resolution, and requires slightly less movement to navigate.

The propaganda for the Vision Pro is somewhat similar to various crypto bullshit in the past years: "you're not seeing the vision", while it stays a mostly useless tool.

I’m not sure this is a fair statement given that the thing isn’t even out yet and most haven’t used it.

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