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No, but that just puts you on a normal supply/demand curve. If suppliers discover that they can raise prices and make more money that way, then they will, with or without inflation.

What normally stops this from happening is that 1) higher prices from supplier X shift business to supplier Y (presuming a functioning competitive market) and 2) higher prices decrease demand. But suppliers have been free to increase prices, as much as they want, forever. That's why I have a hard time blaming profiteering for most of the price increases.

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> But suppliers have been free to increase prices, as much as they want, forever.

This is not at all true and is the direct product of a lack of anti-trust enforcement in the US. We have monopolies and near monopolies in many industries and open collusion between firms on pricing. Most of this would be impossible in a more competitive landscape or one where the Feds did anything other than attempt (and often fail) to squash the most egregious consolidations.

Not saying monopolies aren't a problem, but I'm not able to connect the dots on how monopolies are responsible for the inflation since 2021 unless monopolies have gained power since then.

Otherwise shouldn't we expect the inflation to have started before covid?

Means plus opportunity. During COVID, there were legitimate shortages and supply chain disruptions that caused price spikes and (in some cases) additional profits. When these subsided, firms now had the opportunity to test whether holding prices at this newly elevated level would be tolerated. When the state failed to act to stop them, instead colluding with firms and the media to blame the price increases on thing like spent-and-gone stimulus and labor shortages, they saw they had a free hand to keep prices (and profits) as is. There was no guarantee that this would play out this way until it did, which these monopolies then took advantage of to keep prices artificially high.

There's one key mistake you're making in your assessment. That stimulus is not "spent-and-gone." That money continues to stay in circulation. You can see a graph of the monetary supply here [1]. And you can observe that inflation only started to get reigned in once the monetary supply started to decline. This is why many individuals tend to be against 'printing' money. It's not like people get a boost and things then go back to what they were before, but rather you now have trillions of more dollars floating about in the economy which will tend to drive prices up.

I'd also encourage you to look at the financials reports from most companies. If your profits increase by 5% at the same time inflation increases by 8% then you're both (1) getting absolutely economically wrecked, and (2) reporting 'record profits.' As companies are motivated to frame their earnings as positively as possible, this can be misleading to people who take those reports at face value.

[1] - https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL

This doesn't really matter for inflation. Let's say there is a "cheese monopoly" and they increase the price of cheese 10x. But everyone must have their cheese, so they keep buying it. Now they have less $ to buy other things, so they will either substitute with cheaper goods or the producers will have to lower the price to maintain sales. Thus you see that one seller or industry raising prices does not inherently cause inflation.

That’s a wonderful fairy tale from an Econ 101 textbook, but the reality is instead that the state will intervene to lower input costs for the cheese monopoly by doing things like loosening child labor laws and imposing work requirements for Medicaid.

What the hell are you talking about

He is saying that those profitable powerful industries will lobby the government to help increase it's profit though various means.

Not enough labor? Instead of paying more to attract talent, lobby the government to legalize child labor.

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