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Comment by asdff | Hacker News Reader

Hosting the text content is one thing, but reddit willingly became a multimedia hosting site not all that long ago. The site grew and users got by fine using imgur and what not before i.reddit.com and v.reddit.com ever existed. They also decided to do presumably costly ui rollouts that a lot of their most veteran community members opt out of.

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Do you know why Reddit actually built their own multimedia platforms via i/v.reddit? Because Imgur didn't want to host Reddit content anymore [0]. This is about NSFW but more generally there was a cooling of relations between Imgur and Reddit because essentially Reddit users were freeloading on Imgur's platform without Imgur necessarily being able to show ads due to how Reddit linked directly to the image and not the Imgur link. Therefore, Reddit was forced (and yes, also wanted) to build their own versions.

There is no free lunch. Someone has to pay the bills on hosting, and I'm sure Reddit thought it'd be cheaper to do it themselves at scale than to pay someone as a middleman.

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/18/20920977/imgur-reddit-ns...

According to that article you linked, Reddit started hosting their own images 3 years prior to that change.

As I recall, it was Reddit who moved away from Imgur, not the reverse.

This is the Reddit announcement about their hosting [0]. At that point in time, Imgur was already redirecting direct image links to the non-direct wrapper page so that they could show banner ads. This made it difficult for Reddit to show images in the site and app well, thus the cooling of relations between both I had mentioned. It's interesting since Imgur started off as "an image hosting service that doesn't suck" according to the creator, on Reddit [1].

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/4kuk2j/reddit_ch...

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/7zlyd/my_gift_t...

Everything doesn't suck until you have to make money with it.

imgur started as site to host and hotlink images published at reddit (they wanted to change it to be profitable, but entire point of Imgur was to enable "freeloading on Imgur's platform")

>They also decided to do presumably costly ui rollouts that a lot of their most veteran community members opt out of.

The original UI works well, and it's great they kept old.reddit. Everything since has been horrible, along with the dark patterns pushing their mobile client. It reminds me of all the craigslist UI redesign posts on hacker news many years ago that completely missed the point.

Reddit has definite value (really important as Google quality declines IMO), and I'd love if they could find a way to sustain without destroying the community... but I'm not optimistic.

Google has become unusable recently, maybe my expectations increased since chatgpt but Bing is way superior now.

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