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Tyler is not ready for prime time. I saw this video a few monthes back, got excited and bought it. It took me less than 24 hours to turn it off due to various issues.

It does not work well with various OS windows, windows like the adium contact list and other 'non standard sized' windows.

If you use it with spaces, it often loses your settings if you tell it not to use on space number X.

I could go on with the variety of issues.

I would love a great tiling window manager for OS X. I use XMonad on linux all day at work and would really like to have the same joy when using OS X.

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Unfortunately, the hard truth is that windowed applications in OS X aren't a well-behaved enough bunch for anything like this to work anytime soon.

In 2010, I collaborated on a project to bring some of the features of my 2009 10/GUI concept to MacOS. We got it to a point where the likes of Safari, Finder, and TextEdit worked great and could have made a nice demo video, but the moment you threw in something like Photoshop, which took its own approach to windowing (or iTunes, for that matter; it certainly wasn't just Adobe), everything broke. We never got beyond a proof-of-concept.

As I've said before, a better approach to windowing on OS X will eventually come from the full-screen API in future versions of the operating system: http://interuserface.net/2011/07/10-7gui/

I bought it based on this thread and the video; I agree. I just decided to stop using it after 30 minutes, too many things don't really work.

Now how do I get my money back from the app store?

In iTunes, when you're in the iTunes store, click on your email address in the top right corner to go into your account. Click the 'see all' for 'Purchase History' and then report a problem. If it's the last app you bought, click the button for it and then a link will display beside the price which you can click and fill out a form to ask for a refund.

Beware, however, that you can't do it often. I had a request for an expensive app refund denied because I had asked for (and been granted) a $0.99 app refund a few weeks earlier. So save it for when you need it.

I wish I'd seen you comment before I bought it. I couldn't get it to work with any of my windows. It even has problems with it's own tutorial Window!

I'm actually considering trying to get my money back, it's that bad.

It's not quite the same thing but Moom is pretty good. It doesn't try to automatically manage windows but it does let you position (inc full size) windows very quickly with the keybaord.

Ahh, thank heavens for HN comments. I clicked the link, said "hooray! finally!" and was about to buy it in the App Store. Then I figured I'd read the comments first.

I guess I'll wait.

Same here. I'll stick with my xmonad Debian VM and iTerm2 - I only use tiling WM's for terminal management anyway. I've found these work pretty well with Mission Control for me.

I bought it five minutes ago and it has now been turned off. I'll stick with Size-Up.

Damned discretionary spending.

Try to get a refund if you're that displeased with it.

http://cybernetnews.com/apple-app-store-refund/

Thanks for the tip, but hopefully they'll use the 75% of $9.99 and apply it towards making a better product.

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