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Comment by anotherhue | Hacker News Reader

The gun problem doesn't impact 100% of kids though -- so why not both?

Anyway, they can probably still have old Nokias

You're not completely wrong but you're heading that way. Almost every public and private school in the country does shooter drills now. Kids who haven't been through a school shooting suffer PTSD. They are genuinely afraid that they'll die at school and this is a reality they hear from many adults.

What you mean to say is that not 100% of kids will suffer through a school shooting and that's true but I'll be damned if going to opt to remove phones from kids at school until the likelihood inverts, year over year.

As the article notes, believing that they need their phone to hedge against that possibility and won't be safe without it likely makes their mental health worse, not better.

> The gun problem doesn't impact 100% of kids though

it impacts far too many. Let them have their phones.

let them have a simple communication device. they don't need tiktok and instagram in school.

social media has proven indispensable during times of crisis in the past. No reason to handicap the kids when their school is being shot up.

Yes, how can we forget the countless lives that were saved during school shootings thanks to ready access to Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok?

This is silly. TikTok is not indispensable during times of crisis. Neither is instagram.

To make this claim you’d need some way to distinguish the value of TikTok vs just phone and messaging.

But it’s definite that kids using TikTok in a class of 25-30 lowers performance.

Schools have multiple problems (why 30 kids in a class) but phones make it even harder.

If you want to deprive your child of a potentially life saving device be my guest but you don't get to impose such limitation on my family .

Scroll up to see my reply above - law enforcement and security experts tend to say that children using their phones causing more harm than good during a crisis.

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